All Discussions Tagged 'Control' - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T09:19:26Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=Control&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBypassing the Third Party Recruitertag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-05-04:502551:Topic:16990802013-05-04T04:37:50.249ZHardeep Sodhihttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/HardeepSodhi
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<p>Hi !</p>
<p>I found this at another site .. from about 1 year ago ...</p>
<p>Same has happened to us too occasionally .....add to this multiple CV submissions via different TPRs ( even when fully informed re the Client Company by both the TPRs...)</p>
<p>If this has happened to you a TPR, what are the lessons learnt ?</p>
<p>And if you are a Candidate what has your experience been - was it worthwhile to bypass the Agency ?</p>
<p>Look forward to all comments and experiences from my…</p>
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<p>Hi !</p>
<p>I found this at another site .. from about 1 year ago ...</p>
<p>Same has happened to us too occasionally .....add to this multiple CV submissions via different TPRs ( even when fully informed re the Client Company by both the TPRs...)</p>
<p>If this has happened to you a TPR, what are the lessons learnt ?</p>
<p>And if you are a Candidate what has your experience been - was it worthwhile to bypass the Agency ?</p>
<p>Look forward to all comments and experiences from my more experienced colleagues here.</p>
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<p>Best</p>
<p>Hardeep</p>
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<p>I have just been contacted by a “senior consultant” with a vacancy at a major engineering corporation I wasn’t aware of, I agreed to his consultancy. I have found the company and the vacancy within 5 minutes of his call, and uploaded my profile to the corporate e-recruitment website, made it searchable (without any application to the actual vacancy in question). The company dropped my agency controlled application within 2 days with trivial, and arbitrary excuses (almost as if they wanted to make it very clear that it was a message, which I did get, by the way), the consultant cited this. A further two days later, I got a direct email form the company with regard to the exact same vacancy stating that they have found my CV in their database, and would like to invite for an interview, when would it be suitable for me, etc. So much about companies taking agencies seriously, eh? Don’t believe recruitment agents for second, and don’t try to moralise around their business, it is their trick against the naive. If they lose their fee, fine, better for the company, and better for you, as it increases likeliness to employ you, with the additional benefit that you have just shown you OWN business-mindedness and a general sense of understanding of basic common interests with your prospective employer. Never a bad thing to show.</p>
<p></p> Client Control: Hiring Managers of HRtag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-10:502551:Topic:4873642009-01-10T01:04:06.921ZJames Trattnerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JamesTrattner
The conventional wisdom is that a job order isn't a "hot" J.O. if you can't talk directly to the hiring manager. Well, my firm has been doing quite well for the last several years, especially with one large account in particular, and we are still not allowed to speak directly to hiring managers. When I was a recruiter, about 10 years ago, I always managed to speak directly to hiring managers. My staff tells me now that things have changed and that especially the large companies all have gate…
The conventional wisdom is that a job order isn't a "hot" J.O. if you can't talk directly to the hiring manager. Well, my firm has been doing quite well for the last several years, especially with one large account in particular, and we are still not allowed to speak directly to hiring managers. When I was a recruiter, about 10 years ago, I always managed to speak directly to hiring managers. My staff tells me now that things have changed and that especially the large companies all have gate keepers that work directly with the contingency recruiters. Does anybody have a point of view on this subject? Is this the way that many industries currently operate or am I being misinformed? It certainly seems disadvantageous to only talk to an HR person or an internal recruiter. Should we be more aggressive about insisting on speaking to line managers? Or should we accept that this is the way the industry has developed?