Please tell me why (again) I'm supposed to give you all my contacts on LinkedIn...... - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T11:36:07Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/502551:Topic:144108?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A144299&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIn the last few years, except…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-02-20:502551:Comment:17907302014-02-20T19:53:33.221ZKeith D. Halperinhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/KeithDHalperin
<p>In the last few years, except for the ongoing process of LI ******* over recruiters, what has changed re: this matter?</p>
<p>-kh</p>
<p>In the last few years, except for the ongoing process of LI ******* over recruiters, what has changed re: this matter?</p>
<p>-kh</p> Candace,
You could not be mo…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-20:502551:Comment:1801252008-06-20T20:24:20.587ZRyan Learyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RyanLeary
Candace,<br />
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You could not be more wrong. Research linkedIn and it's founders and you will get a great explanation. LI can be whatever you want it to be. I am assuming you are a recruiter since you are on here, and if that is the case, and you are only connecting to work friends, you are missing a great tool in your belt to recruit.<br />
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Contact me offline and maybe I can help out. I spend a lot of time in strategic sourcing, training teams etc.<br />
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Ryan
Candace,<br />
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You could not be more wrong. Research linkedIn and it's founders and you will get a great explanation. LI can be whatever you want it to be. I am assuming you are a recruiter since you are on here, and if that is the case, and you are only connecting to work friends, you are missing a great tool in your belt to recruit.<br />
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Contact me offline and maybe I can help out. I spend a lot of time in strategic sourcing, training teams etc.<br />
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Ryan I am rushing out of the offic…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-20:502551:Comment:1801212008-06-20T20:21:10.507ZRyan Learyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RyanLeary
I am rushing out of the office at this time, but I wanted to post a quick response and than I am truly finished with this string, as it should be taken offline if needed. Reading your response, a few things come to mind. First, in building relationships; Relationships with my clients that I’ve built over years with my clients are far different than those relationships I’ve built virtually. They have different meaning, a different cause and require a different yet genuine approach. I would hope…
I am rushing out of the office at this time, but I wanted to post a quick response and than I am truly finished with this string, as it should be taken offline if needed. Reading your response, a few things come to mind. First, in building relationships; Relationships with my clients that I’ve built over years with my clients are far different than those relationships I’ve built virtually. They have different meaning, a different cause and require a different yet genuine approach. I would hope that at this point in our careers, a definition and understanding of the difference is not needed. Simply put they different.<br />
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Concerning the statements you are referring too, if you have taken the time to read the entire string, have looked into my work, you would understand that these comments are not contradictory and really are the basis for the disconnect in the original question to the string.<br />
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First, lets look at the entire passage, not just two lines that you chose to highlight.<br />
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The two comments you are questioning:<br />
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<<I try my best to connect everyone and I also share my networks across groups being that my contacts are open networkers>><br />
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<<but I always try to make that connection should the circumstance be credible and trustworthy>><br />
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The entire passage:<br />
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I try my best to connect everyone and I also share my networks across groups being that my contacts are open networkers. My work on LinkedIn consists of business contacts, industry contacts as well as recruiters. Now, I am not going to just hand off my clients and there numbers email and how many kids they have, but I always try to make that connection should the circumstance be credible and trustworthy. I am very meticulous in managing my network, communicating with my network and providing any info I can to them.<br />
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Explanation for your clarity:<br />
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1. You’re right, I do try my best to connect everyone who shares the same interest, thoughts etc. and YES I do share my network across my groups because IF you are a member of anyone of my groups on any of the social networks, you are an OPEN NETWORKER, and you upfront AGREE to be open to ALL invitations and are agreeing to for the better of the community you are participating in to SHARE your information in efforts to create a better and more educated group within our industry.<br />
2. Now, prior to you dissecting the comment above and choosing the second quote, on my LINKEDIN (Professional Business Networking) I will ALWAYS be sure to the best of my ability make certain the source is reliable and the reason behind the intro in genuine. I never said I automatically connect people just for the sake of connecting. The connection and I have to have some type of connection, communication, a dialogue or something.<br />
3. I never said that relationships are built through working a network. You have to understand the difference between “online networking and relationship building” and “in-person” business relationships. These are two totally different concepts and cannot and should not be mistaken.<br />
4. Here is a best practice I follow weekly, without fail. I make direct contact with no less than 10 new people weekly that I have NEVER spoken with before in my LI network. I verbally speak with them, exchange a quick thought or two, and simply open a dialogue. I have successfully directly contact over 1280 people to date verbally through my network. In fact, 43 are international connections and 11 (domestically) and 1 (international relo) eventually became a placements for me out of shear trust and openness to our virtual relationship. It’s real, It’s here and the longer you avoid the quicker you will fall behind the curve, eventually becoming like this darn Dell I am typing on. - Obsolete.<br />
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I am not quite sure what you are trying to accomplish here, but what I can say is that if you take away all of the fluff and text book sayings on how to build relationships over time, what one does etc., and really take moment to understand the true meaning of “social networking”…”web 2.0” and all of the other technologies that we work with, this conversation would not be happening. It’s a new world, it’s virtual and personal, it’s how you place yourself and how effective you can be at marrying the 2 schools of thought to create a happy medium.<br />
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There is no right or wrong way here, but there is ignorance and uneducated approaches.<br />
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Thanks for the thought provoking conversation, but I leaving for the day! I am always open to talk offline! I agree! I thought the whole…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-20:502551:Comment:1801062008-06-20T20:11:54.586ZCandacehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Candace
I agree! I thought the whole POINT of LinkedIn was to only have contacts that you know (or at least work at the same company as you).<br />
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I'm still working on the guilty feeling I get when I decline an invitation from someone I've never met, talked to or had an email conversation with.
I agree! I thought the whole POINT of LinkedIn was to only have contacts that you know (or at least work at the same company as you).<br />
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I'm still working on the guilty feeling I get when I decline an invitation from someone I've never met, talked to or had an email conversation with. I do not recruit recruiters,…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-20:502551:Comment:1799952008-06-20T18:30:17.398ZRyan Learyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RyanLeary
I do not recruit recruiters, no. I am not saying that all networks are alike at all. There are clear differences between all networks, the uses of these networks and for sure the user base. My time at RBC is pent providing industry info, sharing tips and best practices etc. I try my best to connect everyone and I also share my networks across groups being that my contacts are open networkers. My work on LinkedIn consists of business contacts, industry contacts as well as recruiters. Now, I am…
I do not recruit recruiters, no. I am not saying that all networks are alike at all. There are clear differences between all networks, the uses of these networks and for sure the user base. My time at RBC is pent providing industry info, sharing tips and best practices etc. I try my best to connect everyone and I also share my networks across groups being that my contacts are open networkers. My work on LinkedIn consists of business contacts, industry contacts as well as recruiters. Now, I am not going to just hand off my clients and there numbers email and how many kids they have, but I always try to make that connection should the circumstance be credible and trustworthy. I am very meticulous in managing my network, communicating with my network and providing any info I can to them. I do not simply have a massive network for numbers. I actually work the network, make a living off of those in my network (candidates) and if I can’t help them I do my best to get them to someone who can. (relationship building) Which you will find in turn pay off ten fold. At least it has for me, and I have been extremely happy with the folks I’ve meet along the way and the relationships that have grown from all of this.<br />
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LinkedIn and RBC can be similar depending on how you build and use your network, but in general my use of these 2 specific sites is drastically different.<br />
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I hope this helps in explaining. Actually Ryan - I am not at a…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-20:502551:Comment:1798612008-06-20T17:16:06.949ZJerry Albrighthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JerryAlbright
Actually Ryan - I am not at all confused or in dire need of figuring any of this out. I'm not the one who brings this topic back from the grave so clearly I am not the only one on my side of the topic.<br />
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There is a GIANT difference between the reasons for joining RBC and LinkedIN. A huge difference really. RBC is about networking WITHIN the staffing industry. None of my RBC "friends" have anything to do with my client base. Zero.<br />
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Please send me a list of all your clients (just the ones who have…
Actually Ryan - I am not at all confused or in dire need of figuring any of this out. I'm not the one who brings this topic back from the grave so clearly I am not the only one on my side of the topic.<br />
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There is a GIANT difference between the reasons for joining RBC and LinkedIN. A huge difference really. RBC is about networking WITHIN the staffing industry. None of my RBC "friends" have anything to do with my client base. Zero.<br />
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Please send me a list of all your clients (just the ones who have actually paid fees in the past 24 months) and I'll reconsider my stance.<br />
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Smile! :)<br />
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I think we should let this thing die. Your assertion that since they are both "Social" networks they should be treated with the same approach is not going to change my opinion. Jerry,
I have to say that I…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-20:502551:Comment:1798172008-06-20T16:59:29.673ZRyan Learyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RyanLeary
Jerry,<br />
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I have to say that I am completely confused as to why you cannot figure this out? It’s not rocket science. You have to have a little understanding of the value of the boards or you would not have joined in the first place. If you are saying that you joined RBC and LinkedIn to add your clients, that is silly. In fact this whole conversation is silly and quite useless in the broad scheme of things. Let’s be real for a minute, you joined to learn new things. You joined to meet new people…
Jerry,<br />
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I have to say that I am completely confused as to why you cannot figure this out? It’s not rocket science. You have to have a little understanding of the value of the boards or you would not have joined in the first place. If you are saying that you joined RBC and LinkedIn to add your clients, that is silly. In fact this whole conversation is silly and quite useless in the broad scheme of things. Let’s be real for a minute, you joined to learn new things. You joined to meet new people and CONTACTS. You were introduced to these contacts through other contacts and these contacts are open to sharing information and knowledge with you.<br />
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Here it is spelled out.<br />
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Regardless of the social network, when you join a “SOCIAL” networked which LinkedIn, RBC, NING, etc…. are, that n you are saying that you are open to network with others. Which in turn is saying that you are open to sharing and introducing others. It that simple. If you can’t pick this up, than I can’t help you. It’s simply becoming a waste of time.<br />
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And NO we are not saying give ways your contacts…. Good luck with trying to figure this out…. Excellent reply Karen.
I'm s…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-20:502551:Comment:1797962008-06-20T16:47:07.962ZJerry Albrighthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JerryAlbright
Excellent reply Karen.<br />
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I'm still looking for a specific definition of what I am agreeing to when I accept an invitation from somone on any of these networks. Am I saying "Welcome to my world. I am giving you a thumbs up to all my contacts" or what. What AM I saying when I accept?<br />
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Again it goes back to how much you've invested in what you are giving your competitors. If I just hit a few buttons and all sudden I've got 500 "friends" then sure - you can have them too.<br />
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I know the difference…
Excellent reply Karen.<br />
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I'm still looking for a specific definition of what I am agreeing to when I accept an invitation from somone on any of these networks. Am I saying "Welcome to my world. I am giving you a thumbs up to all my contacts" or what. What AM I saying when I accept?<br />
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Again it goes back to how much you've invested in what you are giving your competitors. If I just hit a few buttons and all sudden I've got 500 "friends" then sure - you can have them too.<br />
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I know the difference between a name in my social network list and a number in my cell phone - and theres is a big difference.<br />
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So again - no thanks. I'll keep my contacts.<br />
:) Which is why I have continuou…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-20:502551:Comment:1797922008-06-20T16:43:04.250ZRyan Learyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RyanLeary
Which is why I have continuously said in these posts, that sharing contacts in an open networking environment is great. However, disclosing clients contact info is not. Being open, is not giving away the book, it's simply being open to helping and connecting others.... Good article by the way.
Which is why I have continuously said in these posts, that sharing contacts in an open networking environment is great. However, disclosing clients contact info is not. Being open, is not giving away the book, it's simply being open to helping and connecting others.... Good article by the way. You mean RBC is an OPEN netwo…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2008-06-19:502551:Comment:1792332008-06-19T20:38:32.985ZJerry Albrighthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JerryAlbright
You mean RBC is an OPEN networking group? I'm not sure which direction you're going here. I realize what RecruitingBlogs is. I also realize what LinkedIn is. I am MORE than happy to share all my RECRUITING FRIENDS (not shouting - just emphasizing) with all my other RECRUITING FRIENDS.<br />
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But to share all my clients with my recruiting friends? Are you kidding me?<br />
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Again the answer is no thank you.
You mean RBC is an OPEN networking group? I'm not sure which direction you're going here. I realize what RecruitingBlogs is. I also realize what LinkedIn is. I am MORE than happy to share all my RECRUITING FRIENDS (not shouting - just emphasizing) with all my other RECRUITING FRIENDS.<br />
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But to share all my clients with my recruiting friends? Are you kidding me?<br />
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Again the answer is no thank you.