Are there still gender issues on the job? - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T21:26:45Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A544820&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHow does yelling about everyt…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-10:502551:Comment:5458072009-02-10T16:53:29.007ZSteve Levyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Dieselevy
How does yelling about everything and nothing qualify as a show?<br />
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<cite>Recruiting Animal said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?page=3&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A545773&x=1#502551Comment545773"><div>Julia Stone said: "Let Animal do some of the work himself for the show!"<br/> <br/>
You want to press my buttons Julia, you're on the right track.<br/>
And PS, Maureen HAS A SHOW!</div>
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How does yelling about everything and nothing qualify as a show?<br />
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<cite>Recruiting Animal said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?page=3&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A545773&x=1#502551Comment545773"><div>Julia Stone said: "Let Animal do some of the work himself for the show!"<br/> <br/>
You want to press my buttons Julia, you're on the right track.<br/>
And PS, Maureen HAS A SHOW!</div>
</blockquote> Julia Stone said: "Let Animal…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-10:502551:Comment:5457732009-02-10T16:40:36.661ZRecruiting Animalhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/canadianheadhunter
Julia Stone said: "Let Animal do some of the work himself for the show!"<br />
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You want to press my buttons Julia, you're on the right track.<br />
And PS, Maureen HAS A SHOW!
Julia Stone said: "Let Animal do some of the work himself for the show!"<br />
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You want to press my buttons Julia, you're on the right track.<br />
And PS, Maureen HAS A SHOW! I do have my own show. TalkSo…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-10:502551:Comment:5457562009-02-10T16:38:07.732ZMaureen Sharibhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MaureenSharib
I do have my own show. TalkSourcing: the 1-1:30 pm segment after Animal's show - every other week. I'll be on tomorrow after Animal's show answering your questions on phone sourcing. I hope you stop by.
I do have my own show. TalkSourcing: the 1-1:30 pm segment after Animal's show - every other week. I'll be on tomorrow after Animal's show answering your questions on phone sourcing. I hope you stop by. sounds like you should have y…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-10:502551:Comment:5457512009-02-10T16:34:24.723ZJulia Stonehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JuliaStone
sounds like you should have your own show too Maureen. Let Animal do some of the work himself for the show!<br />
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<cite>Maureen Sharib said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?id=502551%3ATopic%3A543651&page=2#502551Comment545533"><div><p style="text-align: left;"><img alt="" height="86" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1442310798?profile=original" width="120"></img></p>
Animal, here are some questions I'd like to see offered in <a href="http://recruitingshow.com">tomorrow's radio show</a>.<br></br>
Do women experience inequality…</div>
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sounds like you should have your own show too Maureen. Let Animal do some of the work himself for the show!<br />
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<cite>Maureen Sharib said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?id=502551%3ATopic%3A543651&page=2#502551Comment545533"><div><p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1442310798?profile=original" alt="" height="86" width="120"/></p>
Animal, here are some questions I'd like to see offered in <a href="http://recruitingshow.com">tomorrow's radio show</a>.<br/>
Do women experience inequality in the workplace?<br/>
Do women have themselves to blame for some of this?<br/>
<br/>
“A Woman in Power”- An Oxymoron?<br/>
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Is sexism a bigger problem in our society than racism?<br/>
<br/>
Are men better negotiators than women?<br/>
<br/>
Are Women Leaders – set up to fail? See <a href="http://www.ere.net/erenetwork/groups/posting.asp?LISTINGID=%7BCB20BDE7-0B20-465C-838E-AF4827113887%7D">this post</a>.<br/>
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Categories:<br/>
<b>The Ball Buster</b><br/>
Does a woman need to act harshly to keep up with "the boys" and to get ahead in the workplace?<br/>
Do women need to work harder than men in the workplace? Or do men?<br/>
Is success a two edged sword for females?<br/>
Do women (or men) pay a higher price for success?<br/>
<br/>
<b>The Support System</b><br/>
Are women “expected” these days to have a career – are they exhorted to “have it all”?<br/>
Who benefits?<br/>
Who suffers?<br/>
<br/>
<b>The Weeping Willow</b><br/>
Does the “Pauline in Peril” routine work in the workplace?<br/>
Do women use their kids/doctor appointments, personal business, etc. as excuses to cut work? Do men?<br/>
<br/>
<b>The Spinster</b><br/>
Is she seen as Difficult? Lonely? Crazy? Gay?<br/>
Those interested in spinster issues should join <a href="http://www.happyspinster.ning.com">this network</a> - it's FABULOUS.<br/>
<br/>
<b>The Bombshell</b><br/>
Do women use sex to get ahead in the workplace?<br/>
Do men use sex as a weapon in the workplace?<br/>
Do women?<br/>
<br/>
<b>The Bitch Boss Male Dilemma<br/>
The Bitch Boss Female Dilemma</b><br/>
Do women respond differently to male bosses than they do to female bosses?<br/>
Do female bosses prefer male reports over females?<br/>
Do male bosses go easier on female reports than male reports?<br/>
Do male bosses like having female reports?<br/>
Do female bosses like having female reports?<br/>
<br/>
<b>The Culture</b><br/>
Do females sabotage other females? In the workplace? In daily life? Why?<br/>
Are women submissive to men in the workplace?<br/>
Does a man get promoted over a woman if he is considered to be a family’s breadwinner even though both have the same qualifications?<br/>
<br/>
<b>The Lilly Ledbetter Legislation</b><br/>
Are women still being paid less than men? How long will it take to stop?<br/>
Is it cheaper to keep her (on)?<br/>
<br/>
<b>Child Rearing</b><br/>
Is it important someone be home with the kids? Who? Does it matter?<br/>
Does a woman’s career get side-railed by childbearing?<br/>
Do men feel the same sense of responsibility as women for child rearing?<br/>
Are there differences in opinions about this between generations?<br/>
<br/>
Pick one -pick two - pick five but pick some of them!<br/>
Anyone else have thorny questions they'd like to add to the list?</div>
</blockquote> Animal, here are some questi…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-10:502551:Comment:5455332009-02-10T15:24:47.883ZMaureen Sharibhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MaureenSharib
<p style="text-align: left;"><img alt="" height="86" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1442310798?profile=original" width="120"></img></p>
Animal, here are some questions I'd like to see offered in <a href="http://recruitingshow.com">tomorrow's radio show</a>.<br />
Do women experience inequality in the workplace?<br />
Do women have themselves to blame for some of this?<br />
<br />
“A Woman in Power”- An Oxymoron?<br />
<br />
Is sexism a bigger problem in our society than racism?<br />
<br />
Are men better negotiators than women?<br />
<br />
Are Women Leaders – set up to fail? See…
<p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1442310798?profile=original" alt="" width="120" height="86"/></p>
Animal, here are some questions I'd like to see offered in <a href="http://recruitingshow.com">tomorrow's radio show</a>.<br />
Do women experience inequality in the workplace?<br />
Do women have themselves to blame for some of this?<br />
<br />
“A Woman in Power”- An Oxymoron?<br />
<br />
Is sexism a bigger problem in our society than racism?<br />
<br />
Are men better negotiators than women?<br />
<br />
Are Women Leaders – set up to fail? See <a href="http://www.ere.net/erenetwork/groups/posting.asp?LISTINGID={CB20BDE7-0B20-465C-838E-AF4827113887}">this post</a>.<br />
<br />
Categories:<br />
<b>The Ball Buster</b><br />
Does a woman need to act harshly to keep up with "the boys" and to get ahead in the workplace?<br />
Do women need to work harder than men in the workplace? Or do men?<br />
Is success a two edged sword for females?<br />
Do women (or men) pay a higher price for success?<br />
<br />
<b>The Support System</b><br />
Are women “expected” these days to have a career – are they exhorted to “have it all”?<br />
Who benefits?<br />
Who suffers?<br />
<br />
<b>The Weeping Willow</b><br />
Does the “Pauline in Peril” routine work in the workplace?<br />
Do women use their kids/doctor appointments, personal business, etc. as excuses to cut work? Do men?<br />
<br />
<b>The Spinster</b><br />
Is she seen as Difficult? Lonely? Crazy? Gay?<br />
Those interested in spinster issues should join <a href="http://www.happyspinster.ning.com">this network</a> - it's FABULOUS.<br />
<br />
<b>The Bombshell</b><br />
Do women use sex to get ahead in the workplace?<br />
Do men use sex as a weapon in the workplace?<br />
Do women?<br />
<br />
<b>The Bitch Boss Male Dilemma<br />
The Bitch Boss Female Dilemma</b><br />
Do women respond differently to male bosses than they do to female bosses?<br />
Do female bosses prefer male reports over females?<br />
Do male bosses go easier on female reports than male reports?<br />
Do male bosses like having female reports?<br />
Do female bosses like having female reports?<br />
<br />
<b>The Culture</b><br />
Do females sabotage other females? In the workplace? In daily life? Why?<br />
Are women submissive to men in the workplace?<br />
Does a man get promoted over a woman if he is considered to be a family’s breadwinner even though both have the same qualifications?<br />
<br />
<b>The Lilly Ledbetter Legislation</b><br />
Are women still being paid less than men? How long will it take to stop?<br />
Is it cheaper to keep her (on)?<br />
<br />
<b>Child Rearing</b><br />
Is it important someone be home with the kids? Who? Does it matter?<br />
Does a woman’s career get side-railed by childbearing?<br />
Do men feel the same sense of responsibility as women for child rearing?<br />
Are there differences in opinions about this between generations?<br />
<br />
Pick one -pick two - pick five but pick some of them!<br />
Anyone else have thorny questions they'd like to add to the list? Animal, I sent you this yeste…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-10:502551:Comment:5454922009-02-10T15:07:41.571ZJoshua Letourneauhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JoshuaLetourneau
Animal, I sent you this yesterday re: your call for assistance on Twitter, but here she goes again. Tom Peters spoke heavily on women as both better bosses (better salespeople as well), not to mention being the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyVMS5q7zkg">most underserved market</a> in his work, "Re-Imagine". In the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyVMS5q7zkg">video linked here</a>, he essentially debunks business school, which I can personally speak to.<br />
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Tell me why women make…
Animal, I sent you this yesterday re: your call for assistance on Twitter, but here she goes again. Tom Peters spoke heavily on women as both better bosses (better salespeople as well), not to mention being the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyVMS5q7zkg">most underserved market</a> in his work, "Re-Imagine". In the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyVMS5q7zkg">video linked here</a>, he essentially debunks business school, which I can personally speak to.<br />
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Tell me why women make <b>~83% of ALL consumer purchases</b>, yet the company's products they're buying have Executive Boards that are typically made up entirely men. Are you serious? How could this be? Oh, and what about 'Household Investment Decisions' being at 67% Whoa, Double Whoa, Triple Whoa. Think about that for a moment - who REALLY controls the purse strings in 2 of 3 households?<br />
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Some excerpts from his book, Re-Imagine, that may be strong fodder for your discussion include:<br />
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"• Women practice improvisation with much greater ease than men.<br />
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• Women are more self-determined and more trust-sensitive than men.<br />
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• Women appreciate and depend upon their intuition more than men do.<br />
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• Women, unlike men, <b>focus naturally on empowerment</b> (rather than on hierarchical "power").<br />
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• Women understand and develop relationships with greater facility than men.<br />
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Rant: We are not prepared ...<br />
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We acknowledge that a new, fluid world is emerging. <b>But we retain our male-inspired, male-dominated hierarchies.</b> We "reengineer." <b>But our way of thinking, indeed our very vocabulary ("<i>engineering</i>"), continues to be male-inspired</b>. We recognize women's "rights." But we ignore women's strengths. We value "toughness." But we fail to see that women's brand of toughness is far more "steely" than men's. We preach the value of a new kind of enterprise. But we neglect those who are perhaps most fit to lead it. Namely: Women."<br />
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Yes, I'm happy to be a man, but I'm a huge fan of Women for more ways than I can count. Maybe it's from being raised by a single-mother and growing up with 2 sisters? Maybe. Maybe it's just because I love Women. Ladies, I'm one of your biggest fans :) . . . and I'm not afraid to say it. Steve Harvey, stand-up comedi…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-10:502551:Comment:5452492009-02-10T13:03:09.653ZMaureen Sharibhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MaureenSharib
Steve Harvey, stand-up comedian and talk radio host, is the unlikely author of a bestselling relationship book. <b>Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man</b> debuted at the top of several bestseller rankings last week, include the advice list of the New York Times and the non-fiction list of the Wall Street Journal. He spoke to TIME's Belinda Luscombe about why his simple, pull-no-punches counsel is resonating with women. Read the interview…
Steve Harvey, stand-up comedian and talk radio host, is the unlikely author of a bestselling relationship book. <b>Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man</b> debuted at the top of several bestseller rankings last week, include the advice list of the New York Times and the non-fiction list of the Wall Street Journal. He spoke to TIME's Belinda Luscombe about why his simple, pull-no-punches counsel is resonating with women. Read the interview <a href="http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1878059,00.html">here</a>.<br />
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<i>I identify the problems that women have with men and then I give them a solution. The content is so glaringly clear, and I think women appreciate it coming from a guy who has no ulterior motive and is just honestly talking to them.</i> ~ Steve Harvey Wow - nothing personal but th…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-09:502551:Comment:5448342009-02-09T23:28:40.245ZSusan Burnshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TalentSynchronicity
Wow - nothing personal but the picture I get of that future is not one of an innovative, creative, competitive and sustainable society. Yes, the educational system needs work and our high school and junior high school experiences in many instances are lacking. Some of that goes beyond the school system though. Ideally, people should have a choice to the type of educational experience they desire. While not all jobs/careers require a college degree there is a lot of value in investing in our…
Wow - nothing personal but the picture I get of that future is not one of an innovative, creative, competitive and sustainable society. Yes, the educational system needs work and our high school and junior high school experiences in many instances are lacking. Some of that goes beyond the school system though. Ideally, people should have a choice to the type of educational experience they desire. While not all jobs/careers require a college degree there is a lot of value in investing in our future by challenging our minds and taking a broad based approach. There have certainly been successes like Bill Gates and others who have been wildly successful, but its the exception - not the rule. I don't disagree that the educational system could benefit from an overhaul, and in some instances that is slowly occurring. Having been involved with college recruitment and relations and organizations like <a href="www.sife.org">SIFE</a>, the value students derive from a collegial experience is still one, as a global community, we should value. Also, regarding college endowments - most of the biggies have been built up by male centric biz programs at ivy league schools. Endowments for Liberal Arts programs, that for decades focused predominantly on women, have been underfunded for some time - mainly because of the income disparity between men and women.<br />
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Just want to reiterate that I strongly believe in equality and it does not benefit us to be skewed too strongly to either gender. There are many careers, and many people who will do well without a college degree. With that said - I also strongly believe in an open, accessible, progressive educational system that supports a sustainable, peaceful global community.<br />
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<cite>Jim Durbin said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?page=2&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A544820&x=1#502551Comment544811"><div>Susan,<br/> <br/>
1) I'd say the first thing we do is get rid of Pell Grants and Stafford loans. Throttle back this insane rush to get everyone a college degree, thus dumbing down the undergraduate experience.<br/>
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2) Get high schools to focus on teaching the basics. Reading, writing, counting, speaking, civics.<br/>
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3) Set up vocational schools and focus on training high school workers to become trained workers in six months.<br/>
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4) Break the teacher's unions. Grind them into dust.<br/>
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5) Sue a couple of companies that require college degrees for entry level workers. Due it on the basis of gender discrimination against men.<br/>
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6) Separate the genders in from 7th-12th grades (allow local communities to create their own social events as they see fit) and school them in single-sex classes. Roadmap smart kids and allow them to progress faster if necessary.<br/>
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7) Reform Title IX - there's no reason to require equal participation in women's sports if there isn't equal interest.<br/>
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8) Use the current educational formulas to help low-income but bright kids to go to college.<br/>
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9) Most of all, break the link that a college education is a necessity. A degree these days is a social statement, not a certification.<br/>
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10) Also, tax the heck out of college endowments and cut non-teaching staff by 40%.</div>
</blockquote> A very ugly and imbalanced wo…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-09:502551:Comment:5448202009-02-09T23:16:30.449ZSusan Burnshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TalentSynchronicity
A very ugly and imbalanced world ;-)<br />
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<cite>Steve Levy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?page=2&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A544804&x=1#502551Comment544746"><div>Susan - and I'm being only slightly humorous here - but lower grad rates and lower enrollment plus <a href="http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/iju/vol2n1/sperm.xml">lowering sperm counts</a> might mean a future decrease in educated men…</div>
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A very ugly and imbalanced world ;-)<br />
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<cite>Steve Levy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?page=2&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A544804&x=1#502551Comment544746"><div>Susan - and I'm being only slightly humorous here - but lower grad rates and lower enrollment plus <a href="http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/iju/vol2n1/sperm.xml">lowering sperm counts</a> might mean a future decrease in educated men with which to procreate. Dumber men plus stronger women equals...<br/> <br/>
<cite>Susan Burns said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/are-there-still-gender-issues?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A544731&x=1#502551Comment544731"><div>...men have become disadvantaged in the educational system, which is leading to lower graduation rates and lower college enrollment, which is increasing the percentage of women enrolled. However, studies show that women are still only compensated, on average, <a href="http://www.pay-equity.org/index.html">78% of what men earn</a>.</div>
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</blockquote> Jim, do you think separating…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-09:502551:Comment:5448182009-02-09T23:16:03.859ZMaureen Sharibhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MaureenSharib
Jim, do you think separating genders would be a boon or a bias for men (boys)? For women (girls)?
Jim, do you think separating genders would be a boon or a bias for men (boys)? For women (girls)?