Career Move- How you decide if the salary offered is lower than what you are currently getting.... - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T14:01:42Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/career-move-how-you-decide-if?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A499573&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Jason- Yes they actual…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4998602009-01-15T18:51:48.019ZJennifer LaVignehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JenniferLaVigne
Thanks Jason- Yes they actually did discuss a pretty good commission scheme that comes with the base..I guess...the human nature in me being a little worrier made it a bit complicated with regards to making the decision and taking the risk- I guess in this economy it makes you a bit insecure with taking risks and making big decisions like this..you tend to just stay in your comfort zone thinking that it is better to just be safe because there is no option out there in this economy.<br />
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Thanks Jason- Yes they actually did discuss a pretty good commission scheme that comes with the base..I guess...the human nature in me being a little worrier made it a bit complicated with regards to making the decision and taking the risk- I guess in this economy it makes you a bit insecure with taking risks and making big decisions like this..you tend to just stay in your comfort zone thinking that it is better to just be safe because there is no option out there in this economy.<br />
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Thanks soo much! I truly apprecaite it and I look forward to sharing some great discussions like this in the near future:)<br />
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Kind regards,<br />
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Jennifer :)<br />
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<cite>Jason Monastra said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/career-move-how-you-decide-if#502551Comment499724"><div>Full desk, well then - first and foremost I assume you are well versed. With the amount of people I have hired (and fired), solid full desk people are difficult to attract and retain. Solid professionals that manage both sides of the business are a diamond in this business. Therefore, in saying that, you should be able to discuss better commission numbers than the original offer. This will offset the lower salary, showing you have "skin in the game" however when producing expect a larger piece of the pie. Any seasoned manager will appreciate the perspective and you can squeeze some more money.<br/><br/><cite>Jennifer LaVigne said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/career-move-how-you-decide-if?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A499695&x=1#502551Comment499695"><div>Thanks a lot Jason- it will be a full desk one so that is a great thing. I apprecaite your two cents worth.This site is really great! I am learning a lot and get to pick the brains of really seasoned and intelligent people =)</div>
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</blockquote> Thanks Jerry! and to all of y…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4998112009-01-15T18:42:27.951ZJennifer LaVignehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JenniferLaVigne
Thanks Jerry! and to all of you guys:) I truly appreciate it- sometimes you just need more people to actually encourage you even though you know to yourself and even if you got good gut feel about it- still you need great people who know what they are talking about to encourage you. It did help a lot guys! thanks!=)
Thanks Jerry! and to all of you guys:) I truly appreciate it- sometimes you just need more people to actually encourage you even though you know to yourself and even if you got good gut feel about it- still you need great people who know what they are talking about to encourage you. It did help a lot guys! thanks!=) Full desk, well then - first…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4997242009-01-15T18:21:01.793ZJason Monastrahttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JasonMonastra
Full desk, well then - first and foremost I assume you are well versed. With the amount of people I have hired (and fired), solid full desk people are difficult to attract and retain. Solid professionals that manage both sides of the business are a diamond in this business. Therefore, in saying that, you should be able to discuss better commission numbers than the original offer. This will offset the lower salary, showing you have "skin in the game" however when producing expect a larger piece…
Full desk, well then - first and foremost I assume you are well versed. With the amount of people I have hired (and fired), solid full desk people are difficult to attract and retain. Solid professionals that manage both sides of the business are a diamond in this business. Therefore, in saying that, you should be able to discuss better commission numbers than the original offer. This will offset the lower salary, showing you have "skin in the game" however when producing expect a larger piece of the pie. Any seasoned manager will appreciate the perspective and you can squeeze some more money.<br />
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<cite>Jennifer LaVigne said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/career-move-how-you-decide-if?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A499695&x=1#502551Comment499695"><div>Thanks a lot Jason- it will be a full desk one so that is a great thing. I apprecaite your two cents worth.This site is really great! I am learning a lot and get to pick the brains of really seasoned and intelligent people =)</div>
</blockquote> Thanks a lot Jason- it will b…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4996952009-01-15T18:12:25.866ZJennifer LaVignehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JenniferLaVigne
Thanks a lot Jason- it will be a full desk one so that is a great thing. I apprecaite your two cents worth.This site is really great! I am learning a lot and get to pick the brains of really seasoned and intelligent people =)
Thanks a lot Jason- it will be a full desk one so that is a great thing. I apprecaite your two cents worth.This site is really great! I am learning a lot and get to pick the brains of really seasoned and intelligent people =) Pam - I'm not quite sure how…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4996852009-01-15T18:10:47.894ZJerry Albrighthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JerryAlbright
Pam - I'm not quite sure how this is happening - but you seem to be able to somehow post exactly what I would say - but with your name on it. Hmmmmmm.<br />
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I'll just say "Ditto" which is "I'll 2nd that" for those of you in Rio Linda.....<br />
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Jennifer - if you are planning on making commissions - do not let the amount of their initial "get started" loan influence you too much. If you can recruit then just look at their brand, their systems, their clients, their marketplace and then decide if you will…
Pam - I'm not quite sure how this is happening - but you seem to be able to somehow post exactly what I would say - but with your name on it. Hmmmmmm.<br />
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I'll just say "Ditto" which is "I'll 2nd that" for those of you in Rio Linda.....<br />
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Jennifer - if you are planning on making commissions - do not let the amount of their initial "get started" loan influence you too much. If you can recruit then just look at their brand, their systems, their clients, their marketplace and then decide if you will make more placements there vs. where you are now.<br />
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Good luck! Jason Monastra said:I have ha…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4996822009-01-15T18:09:53.433ZJennifer LaVignehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JenniferLaVigne
<cite>Jason Monastra said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/career-move-how-you-decide-if?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A499652&x=1#502551Comment499652"><div>I have had the opportunity to lead large recruiting teams of people (70+) and thus negotiated a great deal from the other side of the table. In addition, as a partner now in a niche firm - I find your situation not unique. One thing that I stress to all candidates is the communication of…</div>
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<cite>Jason Monastra said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/career-move-how-you-decide-if?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A499652&x=1#502551Comment499652"><div>I have had the opportunity to lead large recruiting teams of people (70+) and thus negotiated a great deal from the other side of the table. In addition, as a partner now in a niche firm - I find your situation not unique. One thing that I stress to all candidates is the communication of expectations. One needs to understand before interviewing for a role the importance of certain factors ranging from (workspace, location, management, and of course compensation). When that evaluation is complete, compensation needs to be ranked within the factors of why we are moving and thus given the proper amount of attention.<br/><br/>Compensation is a tricky subject when commission comes into line, as one will need to understand their role in the process. Are you working a full desk or are you relying on someone else to sell. How good will that person be - as that will directly effect commissions. All factors that need to be evaluated when looking at a new role. Consider that new recruiters will get matched with the lower end of the sales force, as seasoned recruiters in the company will demand partnerships with top performing sales people. All in all, if you are working a full desk - no big deal.<br/><br/>In addition, we can look at this positive and a negotiation technique. Lower salary means higher commission. You are working and taking a pay decrease, therefore the upside needs to look more attractive. Negotiate better terms for commission.</div>
</blockquote> I have had the opportunity to…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4996522009-01-15T18:02:38.800ZJason Monastrahttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JasonMonastra
I have had the opportunity to lead large recruiting teams of people (70+) and thus negotiated a great deal from the other side of the table. In addition, as a partner now in a niche firm - I find your situation not unique. One thing that I stress to all candidates is the communication of expectations. One needs to understand before interviewing for a role the importance of certain factors ranging from (workspace, location, management, and of course compensation). When that evaluation is…
I have had the opportunity to lead large recruiting teams of people (70+) and thus negotiated a great deal from the other side of the table. In addition, as a partner now in a niche firm - I find your situation not unique. One thing that I stress to all candidates is the communication of expectations. One needs to understand before interviewing for a role the importance of certain factors ranging from (workspace, location, management, and of course compensation). When that evaluation is complete, compensation needs to be ranked within the factors of why we are moving and thus given the proper amount of attention.<br />
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Compensation is a tricky subject when commission comes into line, as one will need to understand their role in the process. Are you working a full desk or are you relying on someone else to sell. How good will that person be - as that will directly effect commissions. All factors that need to be evaluated when looking at a new role. Consider that new recruiters will get matched with the lower end of the sales force, as seasoned recruiters in the company will demand partnerships with top performing sales people. All in all, if you are working a full desk - no big deal.<br />
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In addition, we can look at this positive and a negotiation technique. Lower salary means higher commission. You are working and taking a pay decrease, therefore the upside needs to look more attractive. Negotiate better terms for commission. Thanks Pam! I appreciate that…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4995732009-01-15T17:32:38.374ZJennifer LaVignehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JenniferLaVigne
Thanks Pam! I appreciate that advice and you are absolutely right and have made a very very good point. Thanks again!=)
Thanks Pam! I appreciate that advice and you are absolutely right and have made a very very good point. Thanks again!=) I think you have to realistic…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4995562009-01-15T17:25:49.300Zpam claughtonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/pamclaughton
I think you have to realistically evaluate yourself. How good are you at recruiting? If you are very good, then the 10k difference on your base is nothing, because you will make far more in commissions. If you are not that strong a recruiter, then maybe going into a role that has an emphasis on commission and production isn't right for you.<br />
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Top producers in the agency world don't put much thought on what their draw or base number is. The real money is made in commissions.<br />
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Good luck!<br />
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I think you have to realistically evaluate yourself. How good are you at recruiting? If you are very good, then the 10k difference on your base is nothing, because you will make far more in commissions. If you are not that strong a recruiter, then maybe going into a role that has an emphasis on commission and production isn't right for you.<br />
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Top producers in the agency world don't put much thought on what their draw or base number is. The real money is made in commissions.<br />
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Good luck!<br />
~Pam