For Corp Recruiters: How best to evaluate third-party agencies? What worked/didn't? - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T12:37:22Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/for-corp-recruiters-how-best-to-evaluate-third-party-agencies?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A1584563&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGreat discussion. I apprecia…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-08-02:502551:Comment:15857252012-08-02T20:51:32.990ZGabriel Bachovehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/GabrielBachove
<p>Great discussion. I appreciate all the information provided. We are a smaller, quality controlled firm and would like to grow in the future, but not at the sacrifice of quality. We have found that our fees coming in much lower than many companies has been beneficial to our growth. Over time, we have discovered that focusing on a couple of specializations is easier and more productive, than staffing for anything that is being thrown at us...nothing like being an expert in your…</p>
<p>Great discussion. I appreciate all the information provided. We are a smaller, quality controlled firm and would like to grow in the future, but not at the sacrifice of quality. We have found that our fees coming in much lower than many companies has been beneficial to our growth. Over time, we have discovered that focusing on a couple of specializations is easier and more productive, than staffing for anything that is being thrown at us...nothing like being an expert in your industry!</p> @Amber - It hasn't been too l…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-08-01:502551:Comment:15852772012-08-01T22:55:34.983ZDavid Jaramillohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DavidJaramillo
<p>@Amber - It hasn't been too long with them (<90 days), and still reviewing all the different processes in place.</p>
<p>@Tiffany - I don't discount the small firms at all. Especially if have they longevity in a particular niche market. Ditto with your comments on large agencies as well.</p>
<p>@Amber - It hasn't been too long with them (<90 days), and still reviewing all the different processes in place.</p>
<p>@Tiffany - I don't discount the small firms at all. Especially if have they longevity in a particular niche market. Ditto with your comments on large agencies as well.</p> I prefer small mom and pop he…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-08-01:502551:Comment:15855072012-08-01T17:37:11.240ZTiffany Branchhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TiffanyBranch
<p>I prefer small mom and pop headhunting firms over the giant ones. I feel the larger agenices are all about numbers and not about quality.</p>
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<p>I prefer small mom and pop headhunting firms over the giant ones. I feel the larger agenices are all about numbers and not about quality.</p>
<p> </p> @David - How long have you be…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-08-01:502551:Comment:15853272012-08-01T16:50:51.346ZAmberhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Amber689
<p>@David - How long have you been with the company? Have you already seen certain trends and/or issues in the recruiting and hiring process? If so, those would be the first things I would examine when trying to determine if and what changes are needed. We recruit for several very large companies that have high volume/hard to fill (or both!) positions and don't seem to have problems filling them because of the size of our agency.</p>
<p>@David - How long have you been with the company? Have you already seen certain trends and/or issues in the recruiting and hiring process? If so, those would be the first things I would examine when trying to determine if and what changes are needed. We recruit for several very large companies that have high volume/hard to fill (or both!) positions and don't seem to have problems filling them because of the size of our agency.</p> The company has had tremendou…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-08-01:502551:Comment:15853262012-08-01T16:20:40.022ZDavid Jaramillohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DavidJaramillo
<p>The company has had tremendous growth in less than ten years. Some of the smaller vendors made sense when it was a small operation but as we get larger may not be able to handle the load as we move to a new corp structure. </p>
<p>I'm with you on not having a large list of vendors either. Thanks for your input!</p>
<p>The company has had tremendous growth in less than ten years. Some of the smaller vendors made sense when it was a small operation but as we get larger may not be able to handle the load as we move to a new corp structure. </p>
<p>I'm with you on not having a large list of vendors either. Thanks for your input!</p> lol @Dan so if another agency…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-07-31:502551:Comment:15850062012-07-31T23:37:43.605ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p>lol @Dan so if another agency wants to work with him they should be his friend!! :) In some places, this is referred to as "building a relationship". I'm totally kidding please don't take me too seriously. :)</p>
<p>@David - forgive my ignorance - do you work for a massive company? I'm wondering why so many people would be involved in the recruiting process that you'll have a large number of people potentially connecting with the companies on this list.</p>
<p>I just don't see any value in…</p>
<p>lol @Dan so if another agency wants to work with him they should be his friend!! :) In some places, this is referred to as "building a relationship". I'm totally kidding please don't take me too seriously. :)</p>
<p>@David - forgive my ignorance - do you work for a massive company? I'm wondering why so many people would be involved in the recruiting process that you'll have a large number of people potentially connecting with the companies on this list.</p>
<p>I just don't see any value in having a giant list of "vendors" that any manager can pick and choose from to bring on contingent staff. In looking at your initial list I would say area of expertise and quality of hires are really the only two that matter. If I'm sending a position out to a search firm it's probably because I need specialized help (CCIE Network Engineers, for example). It's probably a position I don't usually recruit for. I also want to know if a new agency has successfully recruited for my competitors or at least similar companies. I hope so. I don't want to be the company that a newbie cuts their teeth on because recruiting for a VAR sounded like fun.</p> @Amy - I do have my personal…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-07-31:502551:Comment:15846952012-07-31T23:26:51.169ZDavid Jaramillohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DavidJaramillo
<p>@Amy - I do have my personal preferences to do business with but am really wanting to get some objectivity to the selection process. This list would be used by many more people beyond me so I want to show how/why these companies were selected.</p>
<p>@Dan, no lynching necessary. I actually prefer to be on the up-and-up with this company, esp being a new employee. But to your comment, yes, I can easily see having a crony list set up and then 'partner' with the chosen few.</p>
<p>@Amy - I do have my personal preferences to do business with but am really wanting to get some objectivity to the selection process. This list would be used by many more people beyond me so I want to show how/why these companies were selected.</p>
<p>@Dan, no lynching necessary. I actually prefer to be on the up-and-up with this company, esp being a new employee. But to your comment, yes, I can easily see having a crony list set up and then 'partner' with the chosen few.</p> @Amy He just said that so we…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-07-31:502551:Comment:15848192012-07-31T22:16:37.226ZDan Hunterhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DanHunter
<p>@Amy He just said that so we dont lynch him for giving work to his buddies, of course he's doing that! </p>
<p>@Amy He just said that so we dont lynch him for giving work to his buddies, of course he's doing that! </p> I'm a corporate recruiter and…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-07-31:502551:Comment:15845812012-07-31T13:55:13.467ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
I'm a corporate recruiter and completely agree with Ron. I'm curious though- why not be biased to your personal network? If you know and trust them, plus they can get the job done, why not?
I'm a corporate recruiter and completely agree with Ron. I'm curious though- why not be biased to your personal network? If you know and trust them, plus they can get the job done, why not? "I look for those willing to…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-07-31:502551:Comment:15844712012-07-31T12:36:52.936Zbill josephsonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/billjosephson
<p>"I look for those willing to take on the hard to find hires (as I can handle all the typical hires and most of the non typical)."</p>
<p>As a 32 year Contingent Recruiter when asked what the biggest challenge and change I've seen, what Ron Kubitz said above is it. Previously you could market a good candidate in any field, make enough calls, and place them. Today, that's more of what Ron describes a "typical hire" from what I experience.</p>
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<p>So when receiving those "hard"…</p>
<p>"I look for those willing to take on the hard to find hires (as I can handle all the typical hires and most of the non typical)."</p>
<p>As a 32 year Contingent Recruiter when asked what the biggest challenge and change I've seen, what Ron Kubitz said above is it. Previously you could market a good candidate in any field, make enough calls, and place them. Today, that's more of what Ron describes a "typical hire" from what I experience.</p>
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<p>So when receiving those "hard" assignments it becomes a question of are they just hard, unrealistic, or impossible? Often a corporate recruiter won't know, or won't tell you. As a TPR you're at risk with your time, thus money, so the pressure is on you that you'd better decide right. No one is looking out for your time spent best interests. This decision is, perhaps, the toughest one I make. Do I accept the assignment believing it's ultimately "fillable," or not?<br/><br/>But Ron raises valid points, specially the sourcing aspect. I maintain if I work the same why corporate recruiters do working the Internet finding the same candidates they do, why would they want to work with me? Forcing me to adapt finding candidates working differently than they do.</p>