Really, Really Bad Recruiters! - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T13:21:21Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/really-really-bad-recruiters?id=502551%3ATopic%3A1724315&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI thought so too David. You…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-17:502551:Comment:17261962013-07-17T01:46:12.362ZWill Thomsonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/WillThomson
<p>I thought so too David. You don't know if someone is a "perfect fit" until you know what the candidate is looking to do. I would have been perfect if I was a 12hr help desk person... I guess :)</p>
<p>I thought so too David. You don't know if someone is a "perfect fit" until you know what the candidate is looking to do. I would have been perfect if I was a 12hr help desk person... I guess :)</p> That is amazing.
I am of cour…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-16:502551:Comment:17260552013-07-16T22:16:35.642ZDavid Wellshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DavidWells
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">That is amazing.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">I am of course bothered by the asking for references in the secondary email but I am even bothered by the original call. I think it's a personal pet peeve but I just cannot stand it when someone who has never ever spoken to me before, tells me...... "I would be a perfect fit" for whatever…</span></p>
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">That is amazing.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">I am of course bothered by the asking for references in the secondary email but I am even bothered by the original call. I think it's a personal pet peeve but I just cannot stand it when someone who has never ever spoken to me before, tells me...... "I would be a perfect fit" for whatever opportunity they are working on.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">I never, ever say that, unless I have an extremely long relationship with the candidate and know them very well.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">When I leave a message I always state something to the effect of, "I am working on this opportunity (brief high points) and based on your background I felt it may be of interest." Nothing more than that.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">That's just terrible training in a multitude of areas.</span></p> As always, Sandra, I love you…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-14:502551:Comment:17251162013-07-14T20:16:06.542ZWill Thomsonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/WillThomson
<p>As always, Sandra, I love your responses! I guarantee the newby would have wet their rompers! :) <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Sandra McCartt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/really-really-bad-recruiters?xg_source=activity&id=502551%3ATopic%3A1724315&page=2#502551Comment1724452"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Here is another one that will send them to the showers and make their next call a bit scarey.</p>
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<p>As always, Sandra, I love your responses! I guarantee the newby would have wet their rompers! :) <br/> <br/> <cite>Sandra McCartt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/really-really-bad-recruiters?xg_source=activity&id=502551%3ATopic%3A1724315&page=2#502551Comment1724452"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Here is another one that will send them to the showers and make their next call a bit scarey.</p>
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<p>You get the phone message for Will, You call the number back.</p>
<p>Hi Judy Sue, you were calling for Will, may i ask what this is in regard to this is Jake Will's manager.</p>
<p>Oh Hi Jake you were the one i was trying to reach, I am Judy Sue with Over the top End on the Bottom recruiting.</p>
<p>Judy, let me stop you right there. Will was fired last week for talking to a recruiter, all of our calls are monitored and not only do we not use recruiters who solicit our people but we are terminated if we speak with a recruiter. Were you the one who called him? I am now required to speak with your manager and mine to report your call. May i speak with your manager please? Oh, he's out of the office ok , if you will give me his name and direct number i will pass on your name and your manager's name to my boss as i am required to do. I am sure he will be in touch with your manager pretty quickly. </p>
<p>You will either hear a "click" or some stuttering from a newby who has just wet her rompers. So tell her to have a good day and expect a call from Mr. Snidely in the legal department. When she runs to the idiot who is training her to make this kind of a call he will tell her that she didn't do anything illegal, if she is contacted to put the call through to him immediately. She may believe him but it will forever affect her dreams and she will never be totally sure.</p>
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</blockquote> I like Amber when she said "k…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-14:502551:Comment:17251152013-07-14T20:14:24.931ZWill Thomsonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/WillThomson
<p>I like Amber when she said "keep it simple, direct, and honest". I help people who just ask for help. I don't help people who have some crazy sales tactic like the one pulled here to get referrals/ leads. Have the experienced recruiters/ managers make calls and do it the right way rather than having a junior recruiter do it. I pull no blame on the recruiter, but the firm that teaches this. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ryan Harding said:…</cite></p>
<p>I like Amber when she said "keep it simple, direct, and honest". I help people who just ask for help. I don't help people who have some crazy sales tactic like the one pulled here to get referrals/ leads. Have the experienced recruiters/ managers make calls and do it the right way rather than having a junior recruiter do it. I pull no blame on the recruiter, but the firm that teaches this. <br/> <br/> <cite>Ryan Harding said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/really-really-bad-recruiters?xg_source=activity&id=502551%3ATopic%3A1724315&page=2#502551Comment1724619"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Having come out of agency recruiting one year ago, I can tell you this is what they are teaching new people. Their view is the recruiters need to be responsible for lead generation! What better way to do that than turning references into leads and getting hiring manager information.</div>
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</blockquote> Here is another one that will…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-13:502551:Comment:17244522013-07-13T18:23:45.481ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
<p>Here is another one that will send them to the showers and make their next call a bit scarey.</p>
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<p>You get the phone message for Will, You call the number back.</p>
<p>Hi Judy Sue, you were calling for Will, may i ask what this is in regard to this is Jake Will's manager.</p>
<p>Oh Hi Jake you were the one i was trying to reach, I am Judy Sue with Over the top End on the Bottom recruiting.</p>
<p>Judy, let me stop you right there. Will was fired last week for talking to a…</p>
<p>Here is another one that will send them to the showers and make their next call a bit scarey.</p>
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<p>You get the phone message for Will, You call the number back.</p>
<p>Hi Judy Sue, you were calling for Will, may i ask what this is in regard to this is Jake Will's manager.</p>
<p>Oh Hi Jake you were the one i was trying to reach, I am Judy Sue with Over the top End on the Bottom recruiting.</p>
<p>Judy, let me stop you right there. Will was fired last week for talking to a recruiter, all of our calls are monitored and not only do we not use recruiters who solicit our people but we are terminated if we speak with a recruiter. Were you the one who called him? I am now required to speak with your manager and mine to report your call. May i speak with your manager please? Oh, he's out of the office ok , if you will give me his name and direct number i will pass on your name and your manager's name to my boss as i am required to do. I am sure he will be in touch with your manager pretty quickly. </p>
<p>You will either hear a "click" or some stuttering from a newby who has just wet her rompers. So tell her to have a good day and expect a call from Mr. Snidely in the legal department. When she runs to the idiot who is training her to make this kind of a call he will tell her that she didn't do anything illegal, if she is contacted to put the call through to him immediately. She may believe him but it will forever affect her dreams and she will never be totally sure.</p> Having come out of agency rec…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-13:502551:Comment:17246192013-07-13T16:10:45.300ZRyan Hardinghttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RyanHarding162
Having come out of agency recruiting one year ago, I can tell you this is what they are teaching new people. Their view is the recruiters need to be responsible for lead generation! What better way to do that than turning references into leads and getting hiring manager information.
Having come out of agency recruiting one year ago, I can tell you this is what they are teaching new people. Their view is the recruiters need to be responsible for lead generation! What better way to do that than turning references into leads and getting hiring manager information. You know the longer I have be…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-13:502551:Comment:17244322013-07-13T14:48:59.466ZWill Thomsonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/WillThomson
<p>You know the longer I have been thinking about this I have gotten even more frustrated. Yes! This person is new. Someone had to TEACH these sales tactics. That disgusts me. This is what someone WANTS them to do. This is unacceptable behavior in the recruiting world. </p>
<p>You know the longer I have been thinking about this I have gotten even more frustrated. Yes! This person is new. Someone had to TEACH these sales tactics. That disgusts me. This is what someone WANTS them to do. This is unacceptable behavior in the recruiting world. </p> That is what got me too Amy.…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-13:502551:Comment:17243392013-07-13T03:15:55.771ZWill Thomsonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/WillThomson
That is what got me too Amy. I couldn't believe it!<br></br>
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<cite>Amy Ala said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/really-really-bad-recruiters?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A1724067&xg_source=msg_com_forum#502551Comment1724067"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">What bothers me isn't even the crappy cold call. It happens, she's probably new / in training, and is getting her numbers. I get it. But to send a follow up email asking for references?? That just…</div>
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That is what got me too Amy. I couldn't believe it!<br/>
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<cite>Amy Ala said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/really-really-bad-recruiters?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A1724067&xg_source=msg_com_forum#502551Comment1724067"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">What bothers me isn't even the crappy cold call. It happens, she's probably new / in training, and is getting her numbers. I get it. But to send a follow up email asking for references?? That just goes beyond bad training and rookie mistakes. That's downright stupid.</div>
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</blockquote> What bothers me isn't even th…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-13:502551:Comment:17240672013-07-13T03:04:08.696ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
What bothers me isn't even the crappy cold call. It happens, she's probably new / in training, and is getting her numbers. I get it. But to send a follow up email asking for references?? That just goes beyond bad training and rookie mistakes. That's downright stupid.
What bothers me isn't even the crappy cold call. It happens, she's probably new / in training, and is getting her numbers. I get it. But to send a follow up email asking for references?? That just goes beyond bad training and rookie mistakes. That's downright stupid. They shouldn't be earning a p…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-13:502551:Comment:17240662013-07-13T02:52:50.469ZWill Thomsonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/WillThomson
<p>They shouldn't be earning a paycheck. I bet we could write a book from all the blogs from stupid recruiters. "How not to be a STUPID recruiter". Thanks for responding Kelly.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Kelly Blokdijk said:</cite></p>
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<p>They shouldn't be earning a paycheck. I bet we could write a book from all the blogs from stupid recruiters. "How not to be a STUPID recruiter". Thanks for responding Kelly.<br/> <br/> <cite>Kelly Blokdijk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/really-really-bad-recruiters?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A1724065#502551Comment1724247"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Every time something like this happens I SO WISH there was a way to collect all of the assorted vents (aka blogs) that each of us has produced over the years and ever so gently sharing it with the "new" offender as a consolidated link. Perhaps Jake from State Farm could be listed as the author. </p>
<p>I don't really think this is an outcome of someone being "new" to recruiting as much as it being evidence that they are simply a flipping idiot. Seriously, do people not hear what they are saying as they are saying it and consider how ridiculous they sound? Ya really can't blame the recruiter bashing when this is what goes on ALL. THE. TIME. </p>
<p>People like this are earning a paycheck, while millions of people with actual common-sense and qualifications to contribute something productive to the world are struggling through extended bouts of unemployment. Makes me CRANKY!!!!!</p>
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