So do recruitment agencies really have a future? - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T13:33:10Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/so-do-recruitment-agencies-really-have-a-future-1?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A1449487&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSome people do, some people w…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-29:502551:Comment:14550002011-10-29T18:48:39.230ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
Some people do, some people write about doing, some people worry about doing, some people get so<br />
Bogged down in the dodo that they can't do. I guess it all depends on whether we want to do or just muck around in recycled dodo.
Some people do, some people write about doing, some people worry about doing, some people get so<br />
Bogged down in the dodo that they can't do. I guess it all depends on whether we want to do or just muck around in recycled dodo. Some of us write articles abo…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-29:502551:Comment:14551012011-10-29T17:42:00.204ZBarbara Goldmanhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/BarbaraGoldman
<p>Some of us write articles about the death of recruiting, and some of us make a living as recruiters. Isn't it odd that the business has become easier and more robust over the years,for both of us?</p>
<p>Some of us write articles about the death of recruiting, and some of us make a living as recruiters. Isn't it odd that the business has become easier and more robust over the years,for both of us?</p> I'm not sure he's actually pr…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-26:502551:Comment:14504732011-10-26T13:38:46.428ZPaul Thomashttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulThomas
<p>I'm not sure he's actually prophesying the end of recruitment agencies. I think he's suggesting they will likely work to either lower fee levels and/or offer a slightly different service proposition. I don't know if I agree with changing what we do but I can see the argument for pressure on fees. Not sure about formal, retained Head hunting services but certainly for contingency work, fees are not what they used to be. Let's hope they go back to 4 years ago but I suspect earning what we used…</p>
<p>I'm not sure he's actually prophesying the end of recruitment agencies. I think he's suggesting they will likely work to either lower fee levels and/or offer a slightly different service proposition. I don't know if I agree with changing what we do but I can see the argument for pressure on fees. Not sure about formal, retained Head hunting services but certainly for contingency work, fees are not what they used to be. Let's hope they go back to 4 years ago but I suspect earning what we used to bring in will become harder, but not impossible.</p> Doddle (noun)
Something easy…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-26:502551:Comment:14497762011-10-26T00:13:24.499ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p><em>Doddle</em> <em>(noun)</em></p>
<p><em>Something easy</em></p>
<p><em>ex. "I'm sure I'll pass the test - it'll be a doddle."</em></p>
<p>and now you know. I'll be using that in future conversations with my hiring managers. "Amy, where'd you find this awesome candidate?" "Oh, it was a doddle". :)</p>
<p><em>Doddle</em> <em>(noun)</em></p>
<p><em>Something easy</em></p>
<p><em>ex. "I'm sure I'll pass the test - it'll be a doddle."</em></p>
<p>and now you know. I'll be using that in future conversations with my hiring managers. "Amy, where'd you find this awesome candidate?" "Oh, it was a doddle". :)</p> 4. Quote: "Thirdly, it’s a do…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-25:502551:Comment:14499052011-10-25T21:55:12.579ZBill Schultzhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/BillSchultz
<p><em>4. Quote: "Thirdly, it’s a doddle for the employer to save cvs submitted to previous jobs...". I have no idea what a "doddle" is, it just sounds fantastic and I plan to use it 3 times this week on the streets of NYC.</em></p>
<p>LOL, you could get arrested. </p>
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<p><em>4. Quote: "Thirdly, it’s a doddle for the employer to save cvs submitted to previous jobs...". I have no idea what a "doddle" is, it just sounds fantastic and I plan to use it 3 times this week on the streets of NYC.</em></p>
<p>LOL, you could get arrested. </p>
<p><em><br/></em></p> love this... thanks Mike :)Mi…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-25:502551:Comment:14494872011-10-25T21:52:03.433ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p>love this... thanks Mike :)<br></br><br></br><cite>Mike Hard said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks for sending this along Paul. Every couple of months someone gets attention by writing a "RIP for headhunters" article. Usually a retread of the same old arguments, but this one is entertaining. My 5 favorite quotes in this silly article:</p>
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<p>1. Quote: "<span>When you think about it, a recruitment agency is really just a cv database searched on your…</span></p>
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<p>love this... thanks Mike :)<br/><br/><cite>Mike Hard said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks for sending this along Paul. Every couple of months someone gets attention by writing a "RIP for headhunters" article. Usually a retread of the same old arguments, but this one is entertaining. My 5 favorite quotes in this silly article:</p>
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<p>1. Quote: "<span>When you think about it, a recruitment agency is really just a cv database searched on your behalf by a recruitment consultant". Hmmm....bunch of folks may not agree. Agency market is evolving but thriving.</span></p>
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<p><span>2. Quote: "The bigger and more well known the employer the more likely it will be that they can source candidates directly...". A great deal of evidence shows that even the largest and most sophisticated employers make contingent search a strategic part of their recruiting strategy, even if they do quite well sourcing directly.</span></p>
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<p><span>3. Quote: "Margins via lower fees will be cut. Expect agencies to have to work at 5 - 10%, not 15 - 20% as they used to do". Actually, during the past 2 years fees to headhunters in the US have RISEN from 19% to a bit over 21%.</span></p>
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<p><span>4. Quote: "Thirdly, it’s a doddle for the employer to save cvs submitted to previous jobs...". I have no idea what a "doddle" is, it just sounds fantastic and I plan to use it 3 times this week on the streets of NYC.</span></p>
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<p><span>5. And my favorite quote: "we get paid upfront but typically charge much, much less….. about a tenth of what a standard agency fee would be". I knew the punchline would be buried in here somewhere. </span></p>
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</blockquote> Cora raised a good point. He…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-25:502551:Comment:14491902011-10-25T15:55:45.447ZRaphael Fanghttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RaphaelFang
<p>Cora raised a good point. Head hunters, including myself, don't rely on job boards or advertising. I rely on myself to source out the candidates and evaluate them. I don't have the time to sit and wait for the right candidate to show up. I need to go out and the find the person actively. </p>
<p>However, many recruiters still rely on advertisement exclusively. The Automation systems will replace them, but a true head hunter will never be replaced. We will still be out there making the…</p>
<p>Cora raised a good point. Head hunters, including myself, don't rely on job boards or advertising. I rely on myself to source out the candidates and evaluate them. I don't have the time to sit and wait for the right candidate to show up. I need to go out and the find the person actively. </p>
<p>However, many recruiters still rely on advertisement exclusively. The Automation systems will replace them, but a true head hunter will never be replaced. We will still be out there making the connections for our clients. </p> Interesting article and an in…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-25:502551:Comment:14489962011-10-25T15:08:07.923ZCora Mae Lengemanhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/CoraMaeLengeman
<p>Interesting article and an interesting look at the agency firms' demise which we've been hearing about for years. It appears this article is talking about very large firms that push a lot of resumes and don't do any of the other many things that make recruiters so valuable to companies large and small. I have already seen the decrease in number of recruiters employed in those firms in my area. Those firms that boosted 25 - 40 recruiters now have maybe 10 to 12 people or…</p>
<p>Interesting article and an interesting look at the agency firms' demise which we've been hearing about for years. It appears this article is talking about very large firms that push a lot of resumes and don't do any of the other many things that make recruiters so valuable to companies large and small. I have already seen the decrease in number of recruiters employed in those firms in my area. Those firms that boosted 25 - 40 recruiters now have maybe 10 to 12 people or less.</p>
<p>Personally, I don't want to be part of the largest firm; I simply want to be the best headhunter. The person they call when they need a really specific person, with specific skills, from a specific industry and they want it done quickly and quietly - no job boards and no advertising. They can call me when they need to have someone fit into their leadership team while having the skills to move the business forward. I don't see my practice going down, I see an increase in business. </p>
<p>I do not see a decrease in fees in the future - I expect an increase.</p> Thanks for sending this along…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-25:502551:Comment:14491612011-10-25T14:50:30.700ZMike Hardhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MikeHard
<p>Thanks for sending this along Paul. Every couple of months someone gets attention by writing a "RIP for headhunters" article. Usually a retread of the same old arguments, but this one is entertaining. My 5 favorite quotes in this silly article:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>1. Quote: "<span>When you think about it, a recruitment agency is really just a cv database searched on your behalf by a recruitment consultant". Hmmm....bunch of folks may not agree. Agency market is evolving but…</span></p>
<p>Thanks for sending this along Paul. Every couple of months someone gets attention by writing a "RIP for headhunters" article. Usually a retread of the same old arguments, but this one is entertaining. My 5 favorite quotes in this silly article:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>1. Quote: "<span>When you think about it, a recruitment agency is really just a cv database searched on your behalf by a recruitment consultant". Hmmm....bunch of folks may not agree. Agency market is evolving but thriving.</span></p>
<p><span> </span></p>
<p><span>2. Quote: "The bigger and more well known the employer the more likely it will be that they can source candidates directly...". A great deal of evidence shows that even the largest and most sophisticated employers make contingent search a strategic part of their recruiting strategy, even if they do quite well sourcing directly.</span></p>
<p><span> </span></p>
<p><span>3. Quote: "Margins via lower fees will be cut. Expect agencies to have to work at 5 - 10%, not 15 - 20% as they used to do". Actually, during the past 2 years fees to headhunters in the US have RISEN from 19% to a bit over 21%.</span></p>
<p><span> </span></p>
<p><span>4. Quote: "Thirdly, it’s a doddle for the employer to save cvs submitted to previous jobs...". I have no idea what a "doddle" is, it just sounds fantastic and I plan to use it 3 times this week on the streets of NYC.</span></p>
<p><span> </span></p>
<p><span>5. And my favorite quote: "we get paid upfront but typically charge much, much less….. about a tenth of what a standard agency fee would be". I knew the punchline would be buried in here somewhere. </span></p> As with in any industry the g…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-10-25:502551:Comment:14490442011-10-25T14:15:19.868ZRon Kubitzhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RonKubitz
<p>As with in any industry the good recruiters that provide a valuable service will grow and prosper while the inferior recruiters will fall by the wayside! Good recruiters will use all of the tools available to them and build strong client relationships while the poor recruiters will be no better than the 1-2 tools they rely on!</p>
<p>As with in any industry the good recruiters that provide a valuable service will grow and prosper while the inferior recruiters will fall by the wayside! Good recruiters will use all of the tools available to them and build strong client relationships while the poor recruiters will be no better than the 1-2 tools they rely on!</p>