System Collapse (Warning: Unpleasant reading) - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T18:08:30Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?feed=yes&xn_auth=no17 answers on this question o…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-09:502551:Comment:5447832009-02-09T22:53:27.941ZMaureen Sharibhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MaureenSharib
<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/answers/hiring-human-resources/staffing-recruiting/HRH_SFF/413034-850198?browseIdx=0&sik=1234219829227&goback=%2Eahp%2Eabq_1_1234219829227_n_o_*2">17 answers</a> on this question over on LinkedIn -some very interesting!
<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/answers/hiring-human-resources/staffing-recruiting/HRH_SFF/413034-850198?browseIdx=0&sik=1234219829227&goback=%2Eahp%2Eabq_1_1234219829227_n_o_*2">17 answers</a> on this question over on LinkedIn -some very interesting! Can't pretend to be a literar…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-09:502551:Comment:5427942009-02-09T05:07:38.641ZMartin H.Snyderhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MartinHSnyder
Can't pretend to be a literary critic and lord knows enough has been written about her and her books. I just find it the height of absurdity to imagine that the notion of civilized life is compatible with her philosophy. We all depend, to some degree or another, on the efforts of others, both alive and passed on, to create our world.<br />
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" No man is an island, entire of itself..." - John Donne<br />
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I think that includes stud businessmen, straw or otherwise.<br />
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Can't pretend to be a literary critic and lord knows enough has been written about her and her books. I just find it the height of absurdity to imagine that the notion of civilized life is compatible with her philosophy. We all depend, to some degree or another, on the efforts of others, both alive and passed on, to create our world.<br />
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" No man is an island, entire of itself..." - John Donne<br />
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I think that includes stud businessmen, straw or otherwise.<br />
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<cite>Donato Diorio said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=2&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A542772&x=1#502551Comment542772"><div>Atlas Shrugged was not a "how to" book on capitalism. It is full of "straw men" that are built up, easy to hate, in order to build a story with passion, to show the concept of an ideal man. This man really cannot live in a society as we have it today. The one concept that I believe and share is that:<br/><br/>"No one should live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of him. " (I am paraphrasing from memory). In addition, the concept that no one has the right to one iota of another man's life was strong in her 2 major works.<br/><br/>Everything in the book was meant to drill this point in. People who only read the book, but never read the non-fiction work by Ayn Rand, are simply lighting fires to the straw men that she built...on both sides of the debate.<br/><br/>Maybe Greenspan got mesmerized by the amazing writing and forgot that the core message of the book was a personal one, not societal.<br/><br/>What would happen if a society was formed on a remove island, and the only book they had was Atlas Shrugged? That would make a great Star Trek episode!<br/><br/><br/><cite>Martin H.Snyder said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A541732&x=1#502551Comment541732"><div>John Galt is the protagonist star of a book featuring the ravings of a moral cretin whose influence (esp. in the form of one Alan Greenspan) has led us to exactly where we are today. Just sayin.......<br/><br/><br/><br/><cite>Jim Durbin said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A541721&x=1#502551Comment541721"><div>Maureen. Who is John Galt?<br/><br/></div>
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</blockquote> Atlas Shrugged was not a "how…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-09:502551:Comment:5427722009-02-09T04:22:00.897ZDonato Dioriohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/iDonato
Atlas Shrugged was not a "how to" book on capitalism. It is full of "straw men" that are built up, easy to hate, in order to build a story with passion, to show the concept of an ideal man. This man really cannot live in a society as we have it today. The one concept that I believe and share is that:<br />
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"No one should live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of him. " (I am paraphrasing from memory). In addition, the concept that no one has the right to one iota…
Atlas Shrugged was not a "how to" book on capitalism. It is full of "straw men" that are built up, easy to hate, in order to build a story with passion, to show the concept of an ideal man. This man really cannot live in a society as we have it today. The one concept that I believe and share is that:<br />
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"No one should live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of him. " (I am paraphrasing from memory). In addition, the concept that no one has the right to one iota of another man's life was strong in her 2 major works.<br />
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Everything in the book was meant to drill this point in. People who only read the book, but never read the non-fiction work by Ayn Rand, are simply lighting fires to the straw men that she built...on both sides of the debate.<br />
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Maybe Greenspan got mesmerized by the amazing writing and forgot that the core message of the book was a personal one, not societal.<br />
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What would happen if a society was formed on a remove island, and the only book they had was Atlas Shrugged? That would make a great Star Trek episode!<br />
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<cite>Martin H.Snyder said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A541732&x=1#502551Comment541732"><div>John Galt is the protagonist star of a book featuring the ravings of a moral cretin whose influence (esp. in the form of one Alan Greenspan) has led us to exactly where we are today. Just sayin.......<br/> <br/>
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<cite>Jim Durbin said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A541721&x=1#502551Comment541721"><div>Maureen. Who is John Galt?<br/> <br/></div>
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Great post. I too a…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-07:502551:Comment:5418932009-02-07T19:36:50.302ZMike Rasmussenhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MikeRasmussen
Maureen,<br />
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Great post. I too am concerned as are many of us. But I should like to point out, as a recruiting industry we have a very important role to play in helping people find and maintain work. I think our role to the economy is so vital, that we must petition our government to do the right thing. Your post invites engagement which in this economy now is all the more vital. Keep up the great work.<br />
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I recently posted living each day with "Conviction of the Heart". We get one chance in this…
Maureen,<br />
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Great post. I too am concerned as are many of us. But I should like to point out, as a recruiting industry we have a very important role to play in helping people find and maintain work. I think our role to the economy is so vital, that we must petition our government to do the right thing. Your post invites engagement which in this economy now is all the more vital. Keep up the great work.<br />
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I recently posted living each day with "Conviction of the Heart". We get one chance in this world to exact good, and that is the power we have collectively and invidually. Steely indeed; you could not…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-07:502551:Comment:5417782009-02-07T17:06:43.589ZMartin H.Snyderhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MartinHSnyder
Steely indeed; you could not have selected a more Randian adjective ;-)<br />
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<cite>Jim Durbin said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A541738&x=1#502551Comment541738"><div>Martin,<br/><br/>I believe the correct response is a knowing look and a steely, "I am John Galt."</div>
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Steely indeed; you could not have selected a more Randian adjective ;-)<br />
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<cite>Jim Durbin said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A541738&x=1#502551Comment541738"><div>Martin,<br/><br/>I believe the correct response is a knowing look and a steely, "I am John Galt."</div>
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I believe the correc…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-07:502551:Comment:5417382009-02-07T15:15:54.613ZJim Durbinhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/jim_durbin
Martin,<br />
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I believe the correct response is a knowing look and a steely, "I am John Galt."
Martin,<br />
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I believe the correct response is a knowing look and a steely, "I am John Galt." John Galt is the protagonist…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-07:502551:Comment:5417322009-02-07T15:06:02.027ZMartin H.Snyderhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MartinHSnyder
John Galt is the protagonist star of a book featuring the ravings of a moral cretin whose influence (esp. in the form of one Alan Greenspan) has led us to exactly where we are today. Just sayin.......<br />
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<cite>Jim Durbin said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A541721&x=1#502551Comment541721"><div>Maureen. Who is John Galt?<br/> <br/></div>
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John Galt is the protagonist star of a book featuring the ravings of a moral cretin whose influence (esp. in the form of one Alan Greenspan) has led us to exactly where we are today. Just sayin.......<br />
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<cite>Jim Durbin said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/system-collapse-warning?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A541721&x=1#502551Comment541721"><div>Maureen. Who is John Galt?<br/> <br/></div>
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W…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-07:502551:Comment:5417212009-02-07T14:55:34.550ZJim Durbinhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/jim_durbin
Maureen. Who is John Galt?<br />
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We are not at the bottom, and the folks in Congress just aren't smart enough to handle the mess. Which would matter if they were interested in doing so. Collapse may or may not come - the truth is that "triggers" in societies are little understood, and while a rapid downward spiral could occur, the chances are small because there are many strengths to an organized society.<br />
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Look at it this way. If a collapse does come, it will be so sudden and so vicious that most of…
Maureen. Who is John Galt?<br />
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We are not at the bottom, and the folks in Congress just aren't smart enough to handle the mess. Which would matter if they were interested in doing so. Collapse may or may not come - the truth is that "triggers" in societies are little understood, and while a rapid downward spiral could occur, the chances are small because there are many strengths to an organized society.<br />
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Look at it this way. If a collapse does come, it will be so sudden and so vicious that most of your preparations wouldn't matter. Thus the best strategy is to be prepared (food, water, basic survival knowledge, and of course firearms, ammo, and training), but not to spend too much time on it.<br />
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If the world is ending, it will happen quickly. If it doesn't, then time spent worrying or over-preparing will actually hurt you more. The chances of societal collapse are small. The chances that making foolish decisions or suffering from bad morale are sure to hurt you, and it won't help if things fall apart.<br />
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The time to work hard and plan for the future is now. You can only control your reactions to external events. The best advice is to turn off the television and stop reading the newspaper, and focus on business and family. If you're politically motivated, there is a lot more you can do to organize, and I'd be happy to walk you down that path, but if you're not, shutting off the doomsayer noise is the best strategy.<br />
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And if you want conspiracy - there are far more interesting folks than Hal Turner. We'll see - time will tell, w…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-06:502551:Comment:5412792009-02-06T21:48:33.618ZMaureen Sharibhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MaureenSharib
We'll see - time will tell, won't it? Believe me, I don't lie awake worryin' about this stuff- at least NOT YET.<br />
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We'll see - time will tell, won't it? Believe me, I don't lie awake worryin' about this stuff- at least NOT YET.<br />
;) This sure reminds me of Georg…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-02-06:502551:Comment:5412562009-02-06T21:42:26.380Z01. Lonnie McRoreyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/LonnieMcRorey
This sure reminds me of George Orwell's '1984' (Big brother is watching). Amazing similarities however I don't think as Patriots we'll let this awesome country of ours fall into totalitarian rule.<br />
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They're gonna need 'em if the pundits are correct... <b><br></br>
Stimulus Plan Has $1 Billion to Hire More Local…</b></div>
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This sure reminds me of George Orwell's '1984' (Big brother is watching). Amazing similarities however I don't think as Patriots we'll let this awesome country of ours fall into totalitarian rule.<br />
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They're gonna need 'em if the pundits are correct... <b><br/>
Stimulus Plan Has $1 Billion to Hire More Local Police</b><br/>
WASHINGTON — President Obama’s economic stimulus plan includes about $1 billion to help local governments hire more police officers, which would resurrect a Clinton administration program that had been largely shelved by President George W. Bush.<br/>
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The so-called COPS Program, for Community Oriented Policing Services, aimed to add 100,000 police officers to local departments in eight years. Whether it met that goal is the subject of heated debate in law enforcement and public policy circles.<br/>
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Mr. Bush, reflecting a Republican philosophical objection to having the federal government pay for local police salaries, all but eliminated the program. More <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/us/politics/06cops.html?partner=EXCITE&ei=5043">here</a>.</div>
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