The Candidate who changed his mind - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T01:55:24Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/the-candidate-who-changed-his-mind?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A1691555&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe candidate was right to pu…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-05-16:502551:Comment:17029592013-05-16T16:52:27.964ZTiffany Branchhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TiffanyBranch
<p>The candidate was right to pull out. They made a bad impression on him. Candidates should be interviewing companies the same way we interview them. He was a finalist in the midst of an offer. This wasn't about scheduling a second interview. I would have pulled out as well.</p>
<p>The candidate was right to pull out. They made a bad impression on him. Candidates should be interviewing companies the same way we interview them. He was a finalist in the midst of an offer. This wasn't about scheduling a second interview. I would have pulled out as well.</p> I don't think we can ignore c…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-19:502551:Comment:16918152013-04-19T16:27:35.515ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
I don't think we can ignore changes in company structure, it happens. The only thing I might have tried to do differently to keep everybody from getting mad on both sides would have been to explain to the candidate that unfortunately there was a new hiring manager which has changed the landscape significantly. Let's see if we can arrange for you to go back and meet the new manager. Even though there is a verbal offer on the table, I want you to be sure that this is someone you would enjoy…
I don't think we can ignore changes in company structure, it happens. The only thing I might have tried to do differently to keep everybody from getting mad on both sides would have been to explain to the candidate that unfortunately there was a new hiring manager which has changed the landscape significantly. Let's see if we can arrange for you to go back and meet the new manager. Even though there is a verbal offer on the table, I want you to be sure that this is someone you would enjoy working with moving forward and vice versa. Apparently this was somewhat unexpected.<br />
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I would have then contacted my client and suggested the same thing. Everybody should have the opportunity to meet the people they work with. If that was not possible then you absolutely did the right thing. Would he have accepted the job in the first place if he had never met the hiring manager or would the verbal offer have ever been made if the hiring manager had not met him? Of course not, so regroup, if you can't make that happen it's a bad deal all the way around. Thank you for everyone's inpu…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-19:502551:Comment:16917322013-04-19T16:07:03.934ZRaphael Fanghttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RaphaelFang
<p>Thank you for everyone's input on this topic. I really appreciated the time that my fellow recruiters gave to this topic. I have been a recruiter for almost 10 years and this is not the first time. I am sure it won't be the last time either. </p>
<p>I didn't feel that I did anything wrong either. Manipulating others to accept a job order for my personal gains isn't my style. Being a recruiter is just my chosen profession, but I am a person first. </p>
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<p>Thank you for everyone's input on this topic. I really appreciated the time that my fellow recruiters gave to this topic. I have been a recruiter for almost 10 years and this is not the first time. I am sure it won't be the last time either. </p>
<p>I didn't feel that I did anything wrong either. Manipulating others to accept a job order for my personal gains isn't my style. Being a recruiter is just my chosen profession, but I am a person first. </p>
<p></p> As much as we try to get our…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-19:502551:Comment:16917212013-04-19T15:00:31.989ZDebra Nathanhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DebraNathan
<p>As much as we try to get our client companies to sell their company and why someone would want to work there most of them believe candidates are dying to work there and they don't have to. Unfortunately they miss out on some great candidates who look past just a paycheck and look more into the culture and integrity of the company. The interview process is just the beginning of what is to come down the road and an experienced and successful candidate wants to jump on board an enthusiastic,…</p>
<p>As much as we try to get our client companies to sell their company and why someone would want to work there most of them believe candidates are dying to work there and they don't have to. Unfortunately they miss out on some great candidates who look past just a paycheck and look more into the culture and integrity of the company. The interview process is just the beginning of what is to come down the road and an experienced and successful candidate wants to jump on board an enthusiastic, quick and nimble company. A recruiter can only do so much to keep the candidate hot the rest is up to the company.</p> Well said Conor! Conor Lydo…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-19:502551:Comment:16916292013-04-19T14:56:38.621ZDanilo Reyeshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Danilo
<p>Well said Conor! <br/> <br/> <cite>Conor Lydon said:</cite></p>
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<p>Well said Conor! <br/> <br/> <cite>Conor Lydon said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/the-candidate-who-changed-his-mind#502551Comment1691555"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>To be honest, I think the right thing to do is to talk someone out of a role. This way you get the right person for the job</p>
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</blockquote> Why did you lose the client?…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-19:502551:Comment:16918982013-04-19T14:53:36.522ZDanilo Reyeshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Danilo
<p>Why did you lose the client? I think you could of explained to the new contact your history with this placement and they would of understood. Could you have done a better job with the candidate? Maybe but it sounds like the candidate had offers on the table with other companies and this is why they backed out or did not wait. I would not blame yourself. As for your colleagues unless they know how hard you tried to sell and keep the candidate on "Ice" while the client dragged there feet they…</p>
<p>Why did you lose the client? I think you could of explained to the new contact your history with this placement and they would of understood. Could you have done a better job with the candidate? Maybe but it sounds like the candidate had offers on the table with other companies and this is why they backed out or did not wait. I would not blame yourself. As for your colleagues unless they know how hard you tried to sell and keep the candidate on "Ice" while the client dragged there feet they should not have an opinion or lose respect. This is the staffing business, a complex business that can be rewarding and very frustrating as our product is people! If it were me I would of gone back to your saleman or sales department and asked them to step back in and salvage the account. Danilo Reyes - Business Development.</p> Raphael,
I understand your s…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-19:502551:Comment:16914942013-04-19T10:15:23.233ZVinay Johar - RChillihttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Vinay418
<p>Raphael, </p>
<p>I understand your situation and candidate situation too . </p>
<p>if I take it corporate side, their chalanage was to get max fit candidate. If they got some from internal reference and negotiations are still going on, then silence is best approach. </p>
<p>But if company and candidate both has a job fit, I am sure if you talk with company and hten with candidate you will surely get some insight. </p>
<p>Its a sales challenge man , we face daily. </p>
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<p>Raphael, </p>
<p>I understand your situation and candidate situation too . </p>
<p>if I take it corporate side, their chalanage was to get max fit candidate. If they got some from internal reference and negotiations are still going on, then silence is best approach. </p>
<p>But if company and candidate both has a job fit, I am sure if you talk with company and hten with candidate you will surely get some insight. </p>
<p>Its a sales challenge man , we face daily. </p>
<p></p> To be honest, I think the rig…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-19:502551:Comment:16915552013-04-19T07:35:15.326ZConor Lydonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ConorLydon
<p>To be honest, I think the right thing to do is to talk someone out of a role. This way you get the right person for the job</p>
<p>To be honest, I think the right thing to do is to talk someone out of a role. This way you get the right person for the job</p> In my opinion, your actions w…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-18:502551:Comment:16913512013-04-18T21:43:39.745ZSuzanne Levisonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SuzanneLevison
<p>In my opinion, your actions were right on. Hopefully, you and the candidate remained on good terms. A sales prospect, who is of interest to one company, will be of interest to others. Too, if you had persisted, the placement may have resulted in a candidate who resigned within days or weeks of accepting the position. That would have been a worse scenario. It's about the people in these situations. I think, those of us with experience, have been in similar situations. Not easy, but it happens…</p>
<p>In my opinion, your actions were right on. Hopefully, you and the candidate remained on good terms. A sales prospect, who is of interest to one company, will be of interest to others. Too, if you had persisted, the placement may have resulted in a candidate who resigned within days or weeks of accepting the position. That would have been a worse scenario. It's about the people in these situations. I think, those of us with experience, have been in similar situations. Not easy, but it happens and you deal with it.</p> Had this candidate taken this…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-04-18:502551:Comment:16912732013-04-18T21:09:21.649ZSteven Jacobshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/StevenJacobs
Had this candidate taken this job and the client remained disorganized you would have lost credibility with the candidate and respect for the client. In the end you would have had to replace the candidate. It would not have been worth it to talk them into it.
Had this candidate taken this job and the client remained disorganized you would have lost credibility with the candidate and respect for the client. In the end you would have had to replace the candidate. It would not have been worth it to talk them into it.