The return of the living dead (candidate) - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T10:30:15Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/the-return-of-the-living-dead-candidate?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A1461399&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGreat article, Todd. We too…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-11-21:502551:Comment:14700342011-11-21T15:19:27.714ZKelly Wargohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/KellyYoung
<p>Great article, Todd. We too never celebrate a deal until the candidate officially starts. We've had too many last minute turndowns that we didn't see coming.</p>
<p>Great article, Todd. We too never celebrate a deal until the candidate officially starts. We've had too many last minute turndowns that we didn't see coming.</p> Very Good Article. Thanks for…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-11-08:502551:Comment:14613992011-11-08T08:27:32.645ZGeorgina Sonalihttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/GeorginaSonali
<p>Very Good Article. Thanks for sharing!!!</p>
<p>I faced similar experiences in my four year old recruitement career and you are abolutely correct about the candidate's intent and also about creating a good pipeline.</p>
<p>Very Good Article. Thanks for sharing!!!</p>
<p>I faced similar experiences in my four year old recruitement career and you are abolutely correct about the candidate's intent and also about creating a good pipeline.</p> Wow, in reading this I had a…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-11-07:502551:Comment:14609272011-11-07T19:20:57.981ZCandace Naulthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Candacenault
<p>Wow, in reading this I had a total flashback to a very similar experience with a candidate (there are probably more but this one always stood out to me). I never stop being amazed at how cavalier candidates can be (and clients too if you think about it it) only thinking of their own self interest, which is normal, but it's their method and viewpoint about how in their minds no one else is impacted by their flakiness or lack of professionalism. But the gall to think they can just come back…</p>
<p>Wow, in reading this I had a total flashback to a very similar experience with a candidate (there are probably more but this one always stood out to me). I never stop being amazed at how cavalier candidates can be (and clients too if you think about it it) only thinking of their own self interest, which is normal, but it's their method and viewpoint about how in their minds no one else is impacted by their flakiness or lack of professionalism. But the gall to think they can just come back and expect they didn't burn any bridges is truly mind boggling. Love the letter you wrote @Stephanie</p> @Stephanie: I may be sending…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-11-07:502551:Comment:14600842011-11-07T15:05:10.722ZMelissa Zentgrafhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MelissaZentgraf
<p>@Stephanie: I may be sending your letter to two candidates this week. I can't believe the offers that these two turned down. Have they NOT been paying attention to current events???</p>
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<p>@Stephanie: I may be sending your letter to two candidates this week. I can't believe the offers that these two turned down. Have they NOT been paying attention to current events???</p>
<p> </p> Being fed up with candidates…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-11-05:502551:Comment:14597422011-11-05T11:03:14.483ZStephaniehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Stephanie613
<p>Being fed up with candidates declining excellent/better than expected offers I wrote this template in my best English (quite a feat as Afrikaans speaking) that I email to them:</p>
<p>Dear Candidate,</p>
<p>Herewith I want to extend my congratulations with your new vocation.</p>
<p>I just want to bring the following to your attention to safeguard you from burning more bridges when you re-enter the job market in future:</p>
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<li>Please inform your recruiter that you’re not interested in…</li>
</ol>
<p>Being fed up with candidates declining excellent/better than expected offers I wrote this template in my best English (quite a feat as Afrikaans speaking) that I email to them:</p>
<p>Dear Candidate,</p>
<p>Herewith I want to extend my congratulations with your new vocation.</p>
<p>I just want to bring the following to your attention to safeguard you from burning more bridges when you re-enter the job market in future:</p>
<ol>
<li>Please inform your recruiter that you’re not interested in the position offered as soon as possible (preferably before the stage where an offer is extended to you). Most recruiters work on a commission only basis, meaning they only receive remuneration once a candidate is successfully placed and DON’T receive a secure monthly income as you were offered. To facility the recruitment process up to the stage where an offer is extended requires considerable time, effort and resources to be expended. Extend your recruiter the courtesy to expend their energy and resources on another, more suitable, candidate in order to earn their daily bread.</li>
<li>For every offer that is extended to you, at least one other candidate has been declined. The other candidate may have been retrenched/are in the process of being retrenched due to economic factors and desperately in need of employment. You may have deprived another candidate from the ability to care for his family.</li>
<li>The client is left in the lurch when you feign interest and enthusiasm just to decline the extended offer. They undoubtedly declined other interested parties and have to recommence the entire recruitment process. They too invested time and resources and are left with a bad taste in the mouth.</li>
</ol>
<p>I wish you well with your future career.</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>Your Recruiter</p>
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<p>A bit sarcastic I know, but makes me feel better to send them to hell in a nice way without getting personal.</p> Oh my goodness. I had this c…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-11-04:502551:Comment:14595262011-11-04T17:02:59.109ZElise Reynoldshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/EliseReynolds
<p>Oh my goodness. I had this candidate as a Project Manager for a oil field services company. This guy interviewed, was offered a job. They offer was lower than what he wanted. , he proceded to negotiate. Relentlessly, he really pushed the envelope. He was not awarded any extra money but was awarded vacation. This took quite awhile and involved ALOT of people within the company. I spent an incredible amount of time on the phone with this narcisist .</p>
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<p>The entire time I…</p>
<p>Oh my goodness. I had this candidate as a Project Manager for a oil field services company. This guy interviewed, was offered a job. They offer was lower than what he wanted. , he proceded to negotiate. Relentlessly, he really pushed the envelope. He was not awarded any extra money but was awarded vacation. This took quite awhile and involved ALOT of people within the company. I spent an incredible amount of time on the phone with this narcisist .</p>
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<p>The entire time I never encouraged him to stay in the process, it was his choice. Then he said no, after asking and recieving all this additional meetings with the hiring manager. BECAUSE he is getting married and maybe now is not the time to change jobs. He has been engaged for about 4 months!</p>
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<p>I was MORTIFIED, the client was angry and fatigued. Then three weeks latter he calls up the hiring manager and says he wants the job. The hiring manager says YES. He is going to start in a week. I am sure I would never hire him but he client felt they needed him.</p>
<p>Let me just say I did not see this comming, this guy is totally outside the norm. </p> Great post. Thanks for sharin…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-11-04:502551:Comment:14595102011-11-04T15:25:14.368ZDarryl Diosohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DarrylDioso
<p>Great post. Thanks for sharing. As an earlier blog note, you really need thick skin to survive in our trade, eh? Our "product" is the only one that can walk away, be flakey or rude. A car can't turn around on its own and go back to the dealership "I wanted a family with only 1 kid as owners not two!!!" </p>
<p>Great post. Thanks for sharing. As an earlier blog note, you really need thick skin to survive in our trade, eh? Our "product" is the only one that can walk away, be flakey or rude. A car can't turn around on its own and go back to the dealership "I wanted a family with only 1 kid as owners not two!!!" </p>