" THE STICKY STUFF " !!! - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T08:55:12Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/the-sticky-stuff?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A1375798&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have not been in this situa…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-06:502551:Comment:13808012011-09-06T15:47:05.267ZChantelle Legghttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ChantelleLegg
I have not been in this situation, and i am sure that the reaction if put in the situation may be different than being able to think about it and weigh it up, right now my mind is telling me that i would try to stall the process as not put anyone into a potentially bad situation and as i believe Sandra said, try to avoid anybody leaving a stable job to fill the post
I have not been in this situation, and i am sure that the reaction if put in the situation may be different than being able to think about it and weigh it up, right now my mind is telling me that i would try to stall the process as not put anyone into a potentially bad situation and as i believe Sandra said, try to avoid anybody leaving a stable job to fill the post In my case- as a TPR I would…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-06:502551:Comment:13805092011-09-06T15:36:51.243ZTim Spagnolahttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TimSpagnola
In my case- as a TPR I would not be able to continue in good conscience. That is just me....kinda a heart on the sleeve/emotional guy that takes pride in always trying to do the right thing. It would be hard for me to work in this type of situation because I would certainly lose a bit of sleep. With two little guys running around that like to get up at 6- not sure I have time to afford.
In my case- as a TPR I would not be able to continue in good conscience. That is just me....kinda a heart on the sleeve/emotional guy that takes pride in always trying to do the right thing. It would be hard for me to work in this type of situation because I would certainly lose a bit of sleep. With two little guys running around that like to get up at 6- not sure I have time to afford. @Tim and Chantelle what would…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-06:502551:Comment:13801702011-09-06T15:19:42.784ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
@Tim and Chantelle what would you do? Would you continue to recruit if you knew your client or the company you work for was for sale but you couldn't tell the candidate?
@Tim and Chantelle what would you do? Would you continue to recruit if you knew your client or the company you work for was for sale but you couldn't tell the candidate? I agree with Chantelle - I wa…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-06:502551:Comment:13802452011-09-06T15:05:23.680ZTim Spagnolahttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TimSpagnola
I agree with Chantelle - I was always encouraged (by Joseph Campbell I think) to explore things from a variety of perspectives to get some sense of truth. Exactly what this collaboration offers- thanks again for sharing!
I agree with Chantelle - I was always encouraged (by Joseph Campbell I think) to explore things from a variety of perspectives to get some sense of truth. Exactly what this collaboration offers- thanks again for sharing! I will do! it will always be…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-06:502551:Comment:13804052011-09-06T15:05:17.064ZChantelle Legghttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ChantelleLegg
I will do! it will always be good to ehar things from a second and third point of view!
I will do! it will always be good to ehar things from a second and third point of view! Thanks Chantelle. If you have…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-06:502551:Comment:13802442011-09-06T15:03:33.803ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
Thanks Chantelle. If you have a question or situation that is "sticky" please email Amy or me.
Thanks Chantelle. If you have a question or situation that is "sticky" please email Amy or me. I love the structure of this…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-06:502551:Comment:13797232011-09-06T12:19:57.997ZChantelle Legghttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ChantelleLegg
I love the structure of this discussion, it is a great idea to read from both sides and see the insight into the differences! Definately a great collaboration
I love the structure of this discussion, it is a great idea to read from both sides and see the insight into the differences! Definately a great collaboration Legal opinions are just that…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-05:502551:Comment:13778062011-09-05T17:57:34.078ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
Legal opinions are just that and can differ dramatically from state to state and attorney to attorney, that's why both sides have one or two and a judge/jury.<br />
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A lot of companies might not want to include a "no fault termination" clause but might include a specific clause that specifically addresses termination due to sale or merger within a reasonable time period. If not I would want to know why they would not if I were considering uprooting a family for a job move.<br />
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I think people should also…
Legal opinions are just that and can differ dramatically from state to state and attorney to attorney, that's why both sides have one or two and a judge/jury.<br />
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A lot of companies might not want to include a "no fault termination" clause but might include a specific clause that specifically addresses termination due to sale or merger within a reasonable time period. If not I would want to know why they would not if I were considering uprooting a family for a job move.<br />
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I think people should also consider the location they are moving to in terms of, if this job does not work out, are there other opportunities available in the area for someone with my skillset. Some of the most disappointing situations I have ever seen happen when someone with a unique skillset or high salary range moves to smaller city they love then if the job blows up they have to move again. There are never any guarantees but evaluating risk should be a part of the process. Thanks Sandra, that makes sen…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-05:502551:Comment:13776302011-09-05T16:13:07.675ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p>Thanks Sandra, that makes sense. It would seem that the solution is to negotiate a strong employment contract, something along the lines of if the candidate is let go due to no fault of their own in the first 12 months they're entitled to (insert severance here).</p>
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<p>All the more reason why in a relo situation you better have some good reasons BESIDES the company to move somewhere.</p>
<p>Thanks Sandra, that makes sense. It would seem that the solution is to negotiate a strong employment contract, something along the lines of if the candidate is let go due to no fault of their own in the first 12 months they're entitled to (insert severance here).</p>
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<p>All the more reason why in a relo situation you better have some good reasons BESIDES the company to move somewhere.</p> Got a legal opinion. "It wou…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-09-04:502551:Comment:13757982011-09-04T18:41:58.724ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
<p>Got a legal opinion. "It would be a legal matter, ie; the company would probably file for summary judegement if it is a right to work state, then it would be up to the judge to decide if there were a legit cause of action." "If the judge said yes, then the the employee could move forward with a civil action under failure to disclose." "But would be a difficult case to win in some states unless it were a jury trial." "I would suggest that anyone taking a job that required them to move…</p>
<p>Got a legal opinion. "It would be a legal matter, ie; the company would probably file for summary judegement if it is a right to work state, then it would be up to the judge to decide if there were a legit cause of action." "If the judge said yes, then the the employee could move forward with a civil action under failure to disclose." "But would be a difficult case to win in some states unless it were a jury trial." "I would suggest that anyone taking a job that required them to move their family, sell their home etc ask for a simple employment contract that states severance if the company sells or merges resulting in a lay off/termination not based on failure of the employee to perform."</p>
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<p>Then i asked if the recruiter either internally or TPR could be joined to the civil suit personally if it could be proved that the recruiter knew and failed to disclose. If so would errors and omissions cover a judgement if the employee prevailed in the lawsuit?</p>
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<p>Opinion: "The attitude in these kind of suits is sue everybody one can find who might have been a party to the failure to disclose." "As to errors and omissions policy, probably not since it would not be an error and it would not be an inadvertant omission, but check with your insurance provider on that one, too many different policies to give an opinion without reviewing the policy." "As a practical matter the recruiters involved would probably be move valuable to prove that the company not only was aware and took overt action to fail to disclose if they specifically told their recruiters about the sale and instructed them not to tell candidates." "If recruiters were not told specifically and only knew because of rumors it would be considered hearsay and not admissable or actionable."</p>