Wednesday Wisdom: Smell the Roses - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T13:00:46Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A497997&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOnly in the sweetest possible…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4994722009-01-15T17:11:20.052ZClaudia Fausthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ClaudiaFaust
Only in the sweetest possible way, Steve. hehehe.<br />
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<cite>Steve Levy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=2&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A498688&x=1%23502551Comment498688#502551Comment498688"><div>You are evil Claudia...I get involved and your response is to insult me????<br></br><br></br><cite>Claudia Faust said:…</cite></div>
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Only in the sweetest possible way, Steve. hehehe.<br />
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<cite>Steve Levy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=2&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A498688&x=1%23502551Comment498688#502551Comment498688"><div>You are evil Claudia...I get involved and your response is to insult me????<br/><br/><cite>Claudia Faust said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?id=502551%3ATopic%3A495488&page=2#502551Comment498053"><div>Wait... did I just use "SHRM" and "Steve Levy" in the same sentence???</div>
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</blockquote> You are evil Claudia...I get…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4986882009-01-15T11:58:04.164ZSteve Levyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Dieselevy
You are evil Claudia...I get involved and your response is to insult me????<br />
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<cite>Claudia Faust said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?id=502551%3ATopic%3A495488&page=2#502551Comment498053"><div>Wait... did I just use "SHRM" and "Steve Levy" in the same sentence???</div>
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You are evil Claudia...I get involved and your response is to insult me????<br />
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<cite>Claudia Faust said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?id=502551%3ATopic%3A495488&page=2#502551Comment498053"><div>Wait... did I just use "SHRM" and "Steve Levy" in the same sentence???</div>
</blockquote> Thanks Claudia.. hopefully I'…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4981902009-01-15T01:34:37.604ZDan Nuroohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DanNuroo
Thanks Claudia.. hopefully I'll find a way to cash in the "Extra Blog reader" points... I never can find the way to cash in my "Brownie points" at home :)<br />
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<cite>Claudia Faust said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=2&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A498057&x=1#502551Comment498057"><div>Ok, this is a truly brilliant reply Dan, and thank you for chipping in. Extra Blog Reader points for you today...<br></br><br></br><cite>Dan Nuroo…</cite></div>
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Thanks Claudia.. hopefully I'll find a way to cash in the "Extra Blog reader" points... I never can find the way to cash in my "Brownie points" at home :)<br />
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<cite>Claudia Faust said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=2&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A498057&x=1#502551Comment498057"><div>Ok, this is a truly brilliant reply Dan, and thank you for chipping in. Extra Blog Reader points for you today...<br/><br/><cite>Dan Nuroo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A498020&x=1#502551Comment498020"><div>The scarey thing is.. having "that" conversation actually gets easier with experience... I've had them (with other people may I add, not concerning me :) ) 4 times in my career now... the first one was really awkward.. but got easier.<br/><br/>I promise people in our Induction process that I am going to be blunt and honest with them in regards to feedback... and then give the news to them straight (tactfully of course) but with no ambiguities.. I feel like a (insert term here) for doing it, but it is for their own good. I'd like to think no-one comes into a social or professional environment with the idea that they stink and that their odour will offend others... and if they aren't told or don't know anything about it, they cannot fix it. You are doing a disservice to the person but not saying anything.</div>
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</blockquote> Ok, this is a truly brilliant…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4980572009-01-15T00:18:33.836ZClaudia Fausthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ClaudiaFaust
Ok, this is a truly brilliant reply Dan, and thank you for chipping in. Extra Blog Reader points for you today...<br />
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<cite>Dan Nuroo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A498020&x=1#502551Comment498020"><div>The scarey thing is.. having "that" conversation actually gets easier with experience... I've had them (with other people may I add, not concerning me :) ) 4 times in my career now...…</div>
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Ok, this is a truly brilliant reply Dan, and thank you for chipping in. Extra Blog Reader points for you today...<br />
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<cite>Dan Nuroo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A498020&x=1#502551Comment498020"><div>The scarey thing is.. having "that" conversation actually gets easier with experience... I've had them (with other people may I add, not concerning me :) ) 4 times in my career now... the first one was really awkward.. but got easier.<br/><br/>I promise people in our Induction process that I am going to be blunt and honest with them in regards to feedback... and then give the news to them straight (tactfully of course) but with no ambiguities.. I feel like a (insert term here) for doing it, but it is for their own good. I'd like to think no-one comes into a social or professional environment with the idea that they stink and that their odour will offend others... and if they aren't told or don't know anything about it, they cannot fix it. You are doing a disservice to the person but not saying anything.</div>
</blockquote> Wait... did I just use "SHRM"…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-15:502551:Comment:4980532009-01-15T00:14:43.539ZClaudia Fausthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ClaudiaFaust
Wait... did I just use "SHRM" and "Steve Levy" in the same sentence???
Wait... did I just use "SHRM" and "Steve Levy" in the same sentence??? The scarey thing is.. having…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-14:502551:Comment:4980202009-01-14T23:46:09.672ZDan Nuroohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DanNuroo
The scarey thing is.. having "that" conversation actually gets easier with experience... I've had them (with other people may I add, not concerning me :) ) 4 times in my career now... the first one was really awkward.. but got easier.<br />
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I promise people in our Induction process that I am going to be blunt and honest with them in regards to feedback... and then give the news to them straight (tactfully of course) but with no ambiguities.. I feel like a (insert term here) for doing it, but it is…
The scarey thing is.. having "that" conversation actually gets easier with experience... I've had them (with other people may I add, not concerning me :) ) 4 times in my career now... the first one was really awkward.. but got easier.<br />
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I promise people in our Induction process that I am going to be blunt and honest with them in regards to feedback... and then give the news to them straight (tactfully of course) but with no ambiguities.. I feel like a (insert term here) for doing it, but it is for their own good. I'd like to think no-one comes into a social or professional environment with the idea that they stink and that their odour will offend others... and if they aren't told or don't know anything about it, they cannot fix it. You are doing a disservice to the person but not saying anything. This is philosophami (philoso…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-14:502551:Comment:4980152009-01-14T23:43:55.405ZClaudia Fausthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ClaudiaFaust
This is <i>philosophami</i> (philosophy + ami) at it's best, my friends. Could not have said it any better:<br />
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<cite>Amitai Givertz said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A497959&x=1%23502551Comment497959#502551Comment497959"><div>Mrs. G's Godfather was famous for saying: <i>"Sometimes you have to go beyond a person's stink to find their soul."</i> I think that's about…</div>
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This is <i>philosophami</i> (philosophy + ami) at it's best, my friends. Could not have said it any better:<br />
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<cite>Amitai Givertz said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A497959&x=1%23502551Comment497959#502551Comment497959"><div>Mrs. G's Godfather was famous for saying: <i>"Sometimes you have to go beyond a person's stink to find their soul."</i> I think that's about right.</div>
</blockquote> Oh, the SHRM members among us…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-14:502551:Comment:4980092009-01-14T23:40:06.566ZClaudia Fausthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ClaudiaFaust
Oh, the SHRM members among us will thank you for providing a great reference document filled with good advice Steve! So do I for that matter...<br />
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<cite>Steve Levy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A497990&x=1#502551Comment497990"><div>In all seriousness, JAN has an article about this issue. <a href="http://www.jan.wvu.edu/media/employmenthygienefact.doc">Click here for the…</a></div>
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Oh, the SHRM members among us will thank you for providing a great reference document filled with good advice Steve! So do I for that matter...<br />
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<cite>Steve Levy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A497990&x=1#502551Comment497990"><div>In all seriousness, JAN has an article about this issue. <a href="http://www.jan.wvu.edu/media/employmenthygienefact.doc">Click here for the DOC</a>.</div>
</blockquote> What a lovely idea. And if he…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-14:502551:Comment:4980022009-01-14T23:37:04.823ZClaudia Fausthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ClaudiaFaust
What a lovely idea. And if he thinks the cologne comes with a date later, what then?<br />
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<cite>Kay said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A497521&x=1%23502551Comment497521#502551Comment497521"><div>Ask him his B'day and present him with colonge whishing him in advance.</div>
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What a lovely idea. And if he thinks the cologne comes with a date later, what then?<br />
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<cite>Kay said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A497521&x=1%23502551Comment497521#502551Comment497521"><div>Ask him his B'day and present him with colonge whishing him in advance.</div>
</blockquote> Sandra, these are great examp…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-01-14:502551:Comment:4979972009-01-14T23:35:52.615ZClaudia Fausthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ClaudiaFaust
Sandra, these are great examples of being direct. And if one searches for a more subtle option to bring the subject up, HR can do a brilliant job of facilitating the conversation in private.<br />
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I remember working at a manufacturing company many years ago when a European company bought a majority share of stock, and sent an emissary to watch over operations more closely. Bathing customs differ from one part of the world to another we discovered, and it didn't take long for HR to field an arm-load…
Sandra, these are great examples of being direct. And if one searches for a more subtle option to bring the subject up, HR can do a brilliant job of facilitating the conversation in private.<br />
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I remember working at a manufacturing company many years ago when a European company bought a majority share of stock, and sent an emissary to watch over operations more closely. Bathing customs differ from one part of the world to another we discovered, and it didn't take long for HR to field an arm-load of complaints. Due to the delicacy of his role and proximity to the new corporate owner, she arranged for him to have a one-on-one with the company President who outlined many of the social niceties of America, including bathing frequency and deodorant. Turned out he really had no clue that others could smell him rooms away, or that the rest of us didn't smell just like him. Go figure.<br />
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<cite>Sandra McCartt said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-smell-the?page=1&commentId=502551%3AComment%3A497521&x=1%23502551Comment497521#502551Comment496999"><div>We had a situation like this with a candidate we placed as CFO of an exclusive private club. The girls in the office finally took a can of air freshner and started to spray it all the time. When he asked why, they replied that there was a strange odor in the office that was bothering them and thought it could be sewer gas but smelled like BO. He finally got the message because he did have a medical problem so fessed up. They made arrangements for him to see a physician and suggested that he might pay particular attention to getting suits cleaned more often and perhaps bringing a fresh shirt to the office if needed durning the day. the other alternative is to ask him if he has a problem and mention that you have a close friend with the same problem who was able to get it under control with doctor recommended deordant. You would be willing to ask him what it was so he could get some.</div>
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