Wednesday Wisdom: Speak No Evil - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T00:40:40Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/forum/topics/wednesday-wisdom-speak-no?commentId=502551%3AComment%3A734979&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAlthough I like the woman, sh…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-08-26:502551:Comment:7353802009-08-26T17:00:06.775ZPeter Ceccarellihttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PeterCeccarelli
<b>Although I like the woman, she’s not someone I would ever consider hiring: she’s self-absorbed, gossipy, and goofs off more than she actually works.</b><br />
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So isn't this just a bit of personal perception from ONE person's point of view and does mean it's a true description of the person who is asking for the reference? I find that my personal opinion is just that, mine. And from someone elses angle, their observation might be completely different. Ask 3 people who saw the same car accident and…
<b>Although I like the woman, she’s not someone I would ever consider hiring: she’s self-absorbed, gossipy, and goofs off more than she actually works.</b><br />
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So isn't this just a bit of personal perception from ONE person's point of view and does mean it's a true description of the person who is asking for the reference? I find that my personal opinion is just that, mine. And from someone elses angle, their observation might be completely different. Ask 3 people who saw the same car accident and you'll get three very different stories. And if you like liver and I hate liver, does that mean liver is bad for everyone? I don't think so.<br />
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Just the fact that it's a casual relationship <i>(the letter writer never did mention how they are connected to this person which would help tremendously in supporting our comments and suggestions on the scenario</i>), it's a no brainer. No reference. You say no! Can't do that!<br />
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If it's as a casual friend whom you have never worked with, then this has an easy out. But if it's someone that you actually supervised or worked with before, then a little tougher on the "out". I agree with the other posters that unless you've actually supervised someone in the past, then why would you give a reference. I wouldn't even call a personal reference because at the end of the day it doesn't mean anything. And even getting a reference from a former supervisor is tough these days. Too liable for the company, so policies have been changed to only verify employment dates and that's it. A bit of a red flag if she on…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-08-26:502551:Comment:7351982009-08-26T12:54:00.666Zpam claughtonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/pamclaughton
A bit of a red flag if she only knows you casually and yet is asking for a reference. Most of my clients only want references from people who have supervised or worked very closely with the candidate. So, there's your out. I'd say something like, "Thank you for asking, but although I think you're great, I make a point of only giving references for people I've worked with directly and whose work I know well. I wish you all the best."
A bit of a red flag if she only knows you casually and yet is asking for a reference. Most of my clients only want references from people who have supervised or worked very closely with the candidate. So, there's your out. I'd say something like, "Thank you for asking, but although I think you're great, I make a point of only giving references for people I've worked with directly and whose work I know well. I wish you all the best." What is this preoccupation wi…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-08-26:502551:Comment:7351612009-08-26T12:27:46.318ZSteve Levyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Dieselevy
What is this preoccupation with not wanting to burn bridges? We burn vast fields to produce stronger crops so why not test the strength of the structure; if it fails, it clearly wasn't that good.<br />
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Tell the truth to their face and stand back - watch the response.<br />
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What the hell is it with being "professional" these days? Does this mean that we have to put up with mediocrity because of the possibility of bruising someone's fragile ego?<br />
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Leverage strong relationship but challenge the weaker ones;…
What is this preoccupation with not wanting to burn bridges? We burn vast fields to produce stronger crops so why not test the strength of the structure; if it fails, it clearly wasn't that good.<br />
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Tell the truth to their face and stand back - watch the response.<br />
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What the hell is it with being "professional" these days? Does this mean that we have to put up with mediocrity because of the possibility of bruising someone's fragile ego?<br />
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Leverage strong relationship but challenge the weaker ones; they'll either get stronger or fall off the scale. The best response I've heard…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2009-08-26:502551:Comment:7349792009-08-26T06:05:53.951ZDan Nuroohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DanNuroo
The best response I've heard for someone who was surprisingly put down as a referee said "I'd thoroughly recommend (subject A) to my competitors!"
The best response I've heard for someone who was surprisingly put down as a referee said "I'd thoroughly recommend (subject A) to my competitors!"