“I think failure here can be looked at as not seeing the market changes, and adjusting accordingly.” What market changes are we seeing and what adjustments can we make?
Do you need anyone's permission to "admit" to failure- thoughts?
“I think failure is the inability to make a good living and thus you have to live off your own money in the bank.”
“Failure carries a strong taboo-why?”
“As sourcers we're good at assessing motivation. Agree?”
“Is NOT listening one of the steps to failure?”
“If times are lean, and you aren't paying the bills, you should quit and do something more productive in a different field.”
“Do you think personality types key into failure rates?”
“How do you know when you have a problematic personality?”
“At this point in my life my definition of success is much different than it was 20 years ago.”
See you in class!
“I hold a beast, an angel and a madman in me, and my enquiry is as to their working, and my problem is their subjugation and victory, downthrow and upheaval, and my effort is their self-expression.” ~ Dylan Thomas…
guy from his company.
Will excluding tattoo guy cost the hiring manager? of course..by the position remaining open, by not having tattoo guys mad ninja skills on his payroll, etc..
Chances are, the hiring manager is quite prepared to live by his prejudices, no matter the cost.
Does tattoo guys decision to express himself thru body art also carry a cost? yes indeed.. cost of lost opportunities, societal shunning, etc.
Chances are, this isn't tattoo guys first rodeo, so he's probably adult enough to realize this sort of thing happens.
Try as we might, we'll never eradicate things like free expression, or prejudice. So we deal.
best thing to do - take the super candidate to someone who appreciates him for who he is, and can pay your fee.
In closing -
I do reject the notion that tattoo guy needs to be apologized for, or excused when presented because he was "probably drunk when he got that tattoo".. he knew what he was doing - you don't get full body tattoos unless you're aware and committed..and tattoo artists won't work on drunk people..too jittery..
again, if tattoo guy is a grownup, he's used to this, and if your hiring manager is a grownup, all he cares about is skillset, work ethic, and how well he works with others. find a grownup to show your candidates to - they're out there.…
ways in which we learn. I'm glad to see your appreciation for debate. Personally, I'd like to see more fractious* discussion - not less!
I learned today that one reader's take-away of my "Should you need a license to blog?" post was that I was advocating restrictions on persons who post online; restrictions in the name of grammatical erring, spelling and content.
Nothing could be further from the truth. What I do advocate is free expression, no matter the format, no matter the spelling, no matter the ideation we are trying to create. Along with all those noble aspirations I also encourage the writer to be brave, to stay steady and able to withstand the onslaught of opinion all in the name of learning new things in this modern-day classroom we call the Internet. Whether it be in 140 character "idea bites" or paragraphs of "prosy, rambling, or tedious loquacity" that this reply may be accused of, we all stand to get better at our crafts from the lessons we learn online.
Is that a bad thing?
* The word "fractious", 'though meaning unruly, trouble-making, peevish and/or cranky does not mean disrespectful. We can have fractious discussion amongst ourselves without disrespecting each other. That's where Trouble with a capital T enters the picture. Everyone has different tolerances for respect. Does that/should that handicap a discussion? It's an interesting discussion in itself.…
aloo for me), central character (any of the Princesses for my nieces) or a secondary character (Scrooge McDuck for my father) there is some attachment that is had between Disney and the individual. It is this attachment that starts the relationship.
My fondest memory happened when I took my son (then 3) to Disney in the middle of the summer. We were just about to exit from a long, hot day at the park and we were very tired. As we approached the exit, around the corner came Lightning McQueen with music blaring. It didn't seem that there were many people around us at first. In about 10 seconds, there were more than 50 3-7 year old boys all over the car. My son was as excited as I have ever seen him. All the other experiences of the day could not hold a candle to what he just experienced. The smile on his face was enormous and he talked about it for weeks that he met Lightning McQueen. Everytime since he says "Remember when we met Lightning McQueen here?".
A few years ago, I bought my father a statue of Scrooge McDuck diving into his gold coins and playing with them. My father proceeded to tell us all the memories he had as child reading the comic books and seeing the short movies and how he always wanted a safe big enough to be like Scrooge. What a wonderful expression of joy.
There is something for everyone at Disney and they make sure of that for all generations.
It truly is a magical place.…
than good. My point was that sometimes giving a reaction, a controlled one, to a stinky question demonstrates that you care enough about the question to express a concern about it. A "pleasant expression" under fire suggests you may be mute, or in a trance...which is an odd response given the circumstances.
The questions I pose in an interview are not meant to get a reaction other than a truthful response regarding their experiences, education, accomplishments and ambition. I think I can get at that information by not insulting, tricking or stressing a job applicant.
Some job candidates are good at presenting GRAVITAS in an interview due to their confidence gained from work experiences and accomplishments--and some are damn good actors. And some candidates are not so confident, but even those have potential.
Rather than GRAVITAS - I pursue VERITAS because getting as close as possible to the truth of a candidate's background can separates the doers from the actors.
By the way, Mary--so far your post has attracted 403 "view" (the number is listed right beneath you post). That's plenty of interest and my guess is other responses will be coming soon as well.
ff they say. Sheesh! And, they have zero interest in taking accountability for the impression they make. Nope let's just sue somebody!
For sure, I've seen and heard examples of people with prickly personalities and atrocious appearances make assumptions about ageism being the <<<OBVIOUS>>> reason they don't get very far.
There's no way it could be:
that snarly expression on their face
that gigantic chip on their shoulder
that entitled, know-it-all attitude of "do you know who/what I am" at my level?
that condescending "back in my day" or "when I was your age" or "a young whipper-snapper like you probably doesn't remember when..." or with my maturity as a seasoned professional with 39 years of experience I can get this place in ship shape in no time" interview statements
that hideous perfume/cologne that chokes out all the oxygen from the room
that distracting nose hair, ear hair, chest hair poking out everywhere
that too tight, too short, too lowcut, too much camel toe, VPL, too many lumps/bumps, TMI outfit they've decided to wear
that stench of cigarette smoke, moth balls, bad breath or BO detected from 20 feet away
that months' worth of Dolly Parton make-up on thier mug and can full of aqua-net in their hair-do
that pair of eyeglasses they've worn since 1982 not because they've suddenly become a hipster
Thanks again for adding your examples! …
our comments, and for your kind offer- I'll take you up on that. I don't HATE Twiiter- I just don't use it often. (I do have an account, and for some reason a few followers, though I don't tweet.) I'm wordy (hard to get things in 140 characters), don't think I have all that much to say that other people need/want to *hear, and I guess mainly: I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN GET MONEY/WORK BY GETTING KNOWN THERE. Let's see how we can address those....
@ Amy: Bravo. You said in 9 words what i took several hundred to say. You're a REAL RTL, too.
@ Paul: thank you, too, unless it was for Amy...
@ Recruiting Animal: Thought you were Canadian...
@ Mighty Mo: "Hey, Did Todd turn this down?" I may be crazy, but I'm not STUPID/SUICIDAL, so I didn't present it. I already have been told to watch my"'Ps and Qs"
The very fact that you think you MIGHT fall into the category shows that you AREN'T IN IT. The true Self- proclaimed RTLs are too arrogant to admit to the possibility of their own personal imperfection or inadequacies, which like the naked emperor in the story, are plain for all who are willing to see them.
*I do it here and elsewhere more as a form of self-expression and an emotional release from the frustrations of the job.…