t yes, but let's remember references are given by the candidate, in most cases that means they are already pre determined to say positive things, weather true or not. Also remember that there has been case law of references and companies being successfully sued over the information they provided via a reference or prior company check. Asking the questions I listed to the candidate and then listening carefully to the answers will tell you much. Also remember that some references may not have all the detailed info as it relates to the questions I listed. The candidate will and if asked properly and you listen to the answers carefully and see how the answers correlate to the resume and background. You will gleam the needed info. I have been doing this for many years and this method has not failed me yet.…
s a recruiter immediately want to understand and is important to my clients. Companies want to see recency as well as depth of experience for specific areas that relate to their need. A resume that cannot identify this is not going to get any attention.
Also agree that the contact info should be in the body of the text and not a separate header/footer. It can get lost too easily in various viewing formats or ATS.…
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Sandra McCartt said:Ah the plot thickens. If what Jim states is fact that the other two candidates had applied on their own or had already been sourced and Donna/her recruiter had been notified. It's all over. The court of public opinion is adjourned. Opps, Donna may be in a whole nother mess. Isn't it fun to see more info being squeezed out drip by drip.Jim, maybe the lawyer died. God knows that working with recruiters would make any lawyer want to.Looks to me like at this point hit don't make no differnce who shot John. The old boy is dead and it be time to bury him before he starts to stink.The real question may be where did both of you find all these candidates who quit so fast?
ecruiter way back when--I always noticed employment Ads with mailing addresses but no contact name for the recruiter—just a code and address to mail a resume. It occurred to me that it was illogical for a recruiter to make themselves invisible in their recruitment postings—unless they were lazy, or didn’t want to deal with the high traffic of respondents. Why would they make potential candidates simply mail their resumes into a potential “black hole”, which many of them turned out to be, since many employers never acknowledged receipt of such resumes. Why leave potential and high potential candidates in suspense? Worse, why antagonize them about a situation like applying for a job—which most take seriously? Why be invisible?
So very early on and to this day--I always put my contact info in all my Ads and job postings in such places that my corporate peers industry, in the '80s, would never do, e.g., the Los Angeles Times; the New York Daily News; the Denver Post; the Wichita Eagle; etc--all cities with large aerospace companies. The logic being--some of the best candidates are either not looking for a job, or could be but don't want to put their info on front-street for others (like employers/peers) to see for obvious reasons.
Didn't it occur to them that some ideal candidates will never expose themselves by formally applying to job if they wanted to pose some exploratory question(s) first that relate to the job, the company and their potential fit? BUT if they had a way to contact the recruiter to have a preliminary conversation—problem solved. I can tell you how many outstanding candidates reach me in this way—plenty! However, it would never have happened if I was unreachable and thus invisible.
Now as regards outstanding profiles on LinkedIn with no contact info—the same logic applies. A resourceful recruiter will be able to track you down—but why present a barrier to them? Okay so you’re not looking for a job, but if an outstanding job suddenly materialized through some other source—wouldn’t it be advantageous to check it out? All a recruiter is trying to do is to pose a potentially great opportunity.. And how about former colleagues, interested students looking for advice, past advisors—surprise invitations to speak at a conference or contribute to a book? Because my contact info is on LinkedIn I have been invited to speak at an HR conference, to be quoted in an HR industry communiqué, and to contribute to two books. Three of those are done with one to go—and who knows how many more invitations I will receive thanks to being VISIBLE on LinkedIN and elsewhere?…
iter to develop a resume for a specific job. I give the writer as much detail as possible about the job. Then the same with the candidate. They work together then all of us connect and go over a draft. As we work together the resume gets better and better. The candidate without knowing it on a conscious level is going over the job recs and connecting the resume to the job. When the interview takes place the candidate doesn't have to struggle with selling the fit. They have already worked that problem actually prepping themselves as the resume is done, reviewed and completed. They have taken an active role.
When I indicated write it yourself I meant get the whole big mess down on paper then get it to the resume writer to edit out the noise. Another interesting thing happens when people write down in detail every detail of everything they have ever done. They are more able to recall in an interview things they have forgotten and don't freeze as often in the interview.
I caught one of those garbage dumps of stinking info tonight. Someone tweeter that job hunters should work with retained search firms because contingent recruiters were like MLS listings. Gaawddamnit momma...
I snapped a tweet back that said, "Bad information, do not rewet. Continget relates to how we are paid. Contingent recruiters often have exclusives.
I looked up this fount of information. A social media consultant who touts that she connects people with information. If this one told me the sun was going to come up tomorrow I would dash out for flashlight batteries. They tweet among us and they vote.…