ussions that go on at Recruitingblogs. The connections, i've made, laughs i've had, battles i've fought and things i've learned here mean a great deal. I would like to mention a few and hope you will join in with yours. It's almost impossible to mention everybody who has impacted my world but here are a few.
PETER CECCARELLI - Recruiter and now HR Director for Online Shoes based in Seattle. I once suggested to Peter, when we first interacted that he refrain from being such a "prig" based on something he had just written. Peter is a very smart, class act, accomplished writer and artist. I thought he would probably nail me to the wall, take the meat off my sandwich and shove it in my ear. HIs fav saying on here is, "Why is that relevant?"
He responded by saying that his mother once told him never to argue with a woman wearing fur. Whewww, our friendship blossomed and continues. I mention Peter first because i got a heartbreaking email from him this morning. He returned from Europe just in time to spend five minutes with his wonderful Malamute rescue dog "Cody" before Cody licked his hand and crossed the Rainbow Bridge. It's always hard to lose an "innocent" that we love. You are in my heart today Peter. I know Cody is playing in the grass where it's always warm with two black horses named Gifford P. McNasty and Sir Spats Domino , Tom Chuna's beloved Cole who left us last Christmas, Steve Levy's cat "Stinky", Martin Snyder's wonderful Millie and the many others who are so much a part of the lives of all of us. Without the companionship of the animals we love this business might drive us over the edge. They don't care if we made a placement or not.
THOMAS PATRICK CHUNA - PATRICK INTERNATIONAL - Independent Recruiter, Outplacement Consultant, and the guy who, i promise you, can find anything. In his world there is no purple squirrel, they seem to follow him home like the pied piper of recruiting when he never looked for one before and has not a clue what they do or should do. He just finds them. He is an accomplished writer, sweetheart of a guy and does the best candidate prep i have ever heard. He gave me a phrase that has been included in every candidate prep since he first sent it to me.
"Remember that an interview is really a business meeting between two professional people. Handle your interview in that manner and it will go well."
How easy is that and how very true.
Tom is to be remembered also for coming up with the term "Moonbat" referring to one blogger and some notable candidates that we have all encountered. Tom is like a Timex, and a tippecup rolled into one. Knock him over and he rolls back up and keeps on ticking. Thanks for all you do Tom and your friendship, it's about our turn to hit a big one. You are my hero and my pal.
Dr. MICHAEL KALCHMAN , PhD.- Cortex Search - Canada. This sexy scientist/recruiter is so smart that it's an education to speak with him. I came up with some scientific searchs where help was needed in the worst way. Called him and started rattling off what my client needed. Of course it didn't make any sense to Michael because my notes had been taken by yours truly who cheated her way through one year of chemistry and has gleaned most of her scientific knowledge from watching CSI. He finally said, "McCartt do you have any idea what you are talking about?" If nothing else i do know there are some things i can't bullshit my way through so my response was, "Hell no, why do you think i called you Dr. Kalchman." He has been patient, made a trip all the way to Phoenix to impress my client that i even knew a PhD. We have come very close on a couple, no bingo yet but my ability to understand what my scientific clients want has expanded 110% due to Michael's patient teaching. So he calls me "Nurse Rachett", so what, i adore him and treasure his friendship. Even though he says the only reason he tolerates me is because he likes my cute accent. Sheeit, all a y'all everybody has to have something to offer.
Michael is to be remembered for a post he slapped up kevetching about the process with a client who had just hired someone from he and a partner. He unfortunately discovered that it's a lot smaller world than he thought. He was mortified, called me with one of those, Oh my God you will not believe what i have so stupidly done. The brilliant Dr. K gave me one of those laughs that we all get when something someone else does reminds us of the worst time in the history of recruiting when the wrong person got the wrong email. Suicide by email and post as it were. May the McAbees flee from your brillance this holiday season Dr. K. you are sunshine from Canada.
PAUL ALFRED - MANAGING PARTNER -PINPOINT RECRUITING - Canada
Sharp, funny, business savvy, personality plus. Ex IBMer, computer geek turned recruiter just a few short years ago. He handles himself like a seasoned pro, writes like William F. Buckley with a sense of humor. We have debated, passive candidates, social media, personal vs professional profiles and about everything else one can think of. I'm old enough to his grandmother, if i had to compete with him on a search i would come early and stay late just to be sure i could stay up. If i lived in Canada i would beg him for a job with his group so i knew i could play with the big kids. This one is one to watch. He's going places my thinks, big time.
If you have not read his latest blog "Social Media Talk Radio" do it now. His blog last week "On the trail for Qualified Candidates is one of the very best i have read all year.
RAYANNE THORNE- Broadbean
Rayanne interviewed me when i was a newbie on RBC. We laughed most of the way through the interview. Rayanne is like Rebecca of Sunnybrook farm but don't for one minute think that she doesn't have a buzzsaw concealed under those daisys.
SHERRY JUNKER - Who wrote the now infamous Blog entitled "I'm a Recruiting Whore..and I love it." Haven't seen muxch of Sherry lately but she was great to send me a whole spreadsheet of docs that she researched for me. From one old recruiting whore to another. You are trip Sherry. Thanks for your candor and friendship.
PAMELA TOWAN deFORCE - LEGAL RECRUITER - California. - Pamela and i connected several months ago. Had a love fest telling each other that neither of us looked even half our age. Only a female recruiter will tell her real age.
Pamela's memorable comment - Hire a teenager while they still know everything. Still laughing Pamela, you still don't look a day over 40. :)
JERRY ALBRIGHT- I've already said most of it but Jerry's most memorable quotes. NOT THIS AGAIN!!!! and Last but never least. NICE AD.!!!!!
MARK LENNARD - SEASONED RECRUITER AND FAMILY GUY - UK
Albright and i beat the stuffing out of Mark for not opening up comments. He is nobody's dummy. He opened them up got a ton of comments and loved it when i told him he was real "mench" and that came from a "Sabra". A Sabra is a female Isralei soldier and also a cactus that is native to Israel. It's sweet on the inside and thorny on the outside. There is also a liquor by the same name that bears tasting if you have never tried it. Mark did however disappear to Turkey in the middle of all that. He said it was a vacation. That took Jer and i down a peg on the power scale.
HEIDI Burkley - Principal - Exalt Hiring Solutions - Chicago
Classy, smart, communicates far above the skills of most of us strugging to say something intelligent. She just opens her mouth or types as the case may be and intelligent just flows. She is all about relationships. Out of the blue you may receive an email from her with a nice compliment about something you said somewhere and how much she appreciates you. Her mama raised a great lady.
So many others that mean so much to me. Steve, Maureen, Ambrish , Dan , Becky, James, Heather. From all over the world you have laughed at my outrageous sense of humor (even the one about the heat in Texas and the fried cat in the backseat), taught me so much, expanded my world and my ability. Happy Holidays ,you brighten my life. If i didn't mention your name it's because this could go on forever, it's cold, i got out the life size Santa Clauses (four of them), my giant Pyrenes Mountain Dog who weighs in at 150 lubs is terrified and just wet on the carpet. Proving once again that all good things can get peed on if they go on too long. :)
JASON DAVIS - MILES, MAREN - RBC Thank you for your hard work to provide a great spot in the world of recruiting. Maren's most memorable quote to me.
"Sandra, you can not call Josh a Jerkweed". My response, "oK, Maren, but hell, understand that in my world, that's a term of endearment.
That's Texas Talkin', from the third cottonwood tree , 2miles S. W. of Jackass Flats, USA America. If you have memories of memorable members and mentions share them, tis the season! Let's go sell something this week.!
the Olympic world by storm from 1984 to 1996. Now, the gold medal winner and her husband Bob Kersee (who was her Olympic coach), raise funds for the Jackie Joyner-Kersee Foundation in East St. Louis. Jackie, 50, talked to PARADE about her favorite Olympic memory, how she handled being coached by her husband, and more.
On her favorite Olympic memory.
"Winning is great, but being able to finish my last Olympic Games on American soil was very important. Even though I was injured, I didn’t let my psyche get the best of me and cause me to doubt myself, so I was willing to pull every muscle in my body in ‘96 in order to get the job done and I came away with the bronze medal. In some ways, means more than the gold medals."
On what it takes to be an Olympian.
"It takes dedication, it takes a lot of patience, it takes a commitment, but with the understanding that you need the support of others to really help you. There are a lot of other people that really play a significant role in helping you become an Olympian.
On being coached by her husband (who still coaches) during her Olympic years.
"I knew he was always going to be there with me and that I always felt that I was willing to be the student, and willing to learn from him and not let our relationship interfere with us winning. I had to look at him from the eyes of an athlete and not from the eyes of a wife."
On paving the way for female athletes.
"There are many women who came before me who didn’t really have the same opportunities that I have had. That’s why I always wanted to be a great ambassador — not only today's generation — but for the women who really didn’t have a voice, but who paved the way for me."
On what she's up to today.
"I do a lot of work with my foundation. I also do speaking engagements and I’m involved in the community. Teaching kids about health and fitness is important to me. It’s about being fit for life. Even though I’m not a competitive athlete, I have to still maintain things and try to keep myself fit because I am at that age where I need to make sure to get those regular checkups and make sure everything is in tact."
On the London Games."I'm excited about it, but I’m nervous for the athletes. I want them to do well. I'm looking forward to it being a really successful Olympic Games for our team because in Beijing, it was all about other countries, like Jamaica, so I’m looking forward to these Games in London."
Jackie Joyner-Kersee as she lands after the long jump, part of the heptathlon, 1984 Los Angeles Olympic Games.
Jacqueline "Jackie" Joyner-Kersee (born March 3, 1962) is a retired American athlete, ranked among the all-time greatest athletes in the women's heptathlon as well as in the women's long jump. She won three gold, one silver, and two bronze Olympic medals, in those two events at four different Olympic Games. Sports Illustrated for Women magazine voted Joyner-Kersee the Greatest Female Athlete of the 20th century
I had the good fortune to see Jackie Joyner-Keersee compete in the 1984 Olympic Games in Los Angeles and be in the audience at various social and sporting events where she's a very special guest in the St Louis area over the years. She's another true role model still inspiring youth to stay competitive in sports and careers.
Olympian Brittany Borman - Javelin Throw
Brittany Borman holds the Nemeth javelin on Thursday, July 5, 2012 in Norman, Okla. which she used on her final throw during the Olympic qualifiers. Borman is among six athletes from the University of Oklahoma who have qualified for the 2012 London Olympics in track and field, wrestling and men's gymnastics. Photo. Photo by Steve Sisney, The Oklahoman STEVE SISNEY - THE OKLAHOMAN Read more: http://newsok.com/photo/uid/n_1ed2862dc957d2a9d2742f7d8ef7be16#ixzz1zp37yGzm
Ashton Eaton breaks world record in decathlon... Next Stop - London Olympic Games
Photo Source: Throwers of track & field shared Dan O'Brien's photo.
Ashton Eaton sets world mark
Updated: June 24, 2012, 1:48 AM ET
ESPN.com news services
EUGENE, Ore. -- Meter by meter, Ashton Eaton kept swallowing up real estate on a track that has always felt like home.
Second by second, the clock to the side of that track ticked away -- daring him to cross the finish line in a time that would put his name in the record books.
Eaton was every bit as relentless and stubborn as that clock Saturday. He set a personal best in the exhausting 1,500-meter finale and is now the world-record holder in the decathlon -- the cream of the crop in the event that determines the world's best athlete.
"It's like living an entire lifetime in two days," Eaton said.
He finished the grueling two-day event with 9,039 points in the U.S. Olympic trials to beat Roman Sebrle's 11-year-old mark by 13 points.
Eaton joined the likes of Bruce Jenner, Dan O'Brien and Rafer Johnson among the Americans who have held the world record. He did it on the 100th anniversary of the first Olympic decathlon -- and many of the American greats who have made history in the event were on hand to watch Eaton do the same.
He did it in terrible weather -- drizzle, rain, cold and then, finally, sunshine as he got ready for the final 1,500-meter push.
"He was in position for it, and he went for it and there was no letdown," O'Brien said. "The most impressive thing was that he kept up his intensity in this weather."
Eaton, the 24-year-old and a former NCAA champion for University of Oregon, needed a time of 4 minutes, 16.37 seconds in the 1,500 to break the mark. He finished in 4:14.48.
When it was over, he bent down and put his hands on his knees, then brought them up to cover his mouth. Tears were falling -- elated and shocked all at the same time.
A few minutes later, he took the mini American flag he'd been handed as a newly minted member of the U.S. Olympic team and stabbed it into the turf near the scoreboard that displayed his accomplishment: "World Record Decathlon. Ashton Eaton. 9,039 points." Photographers lined up for the historic shoot. Certainly, Eaton will own a copy or two by the time this night is over.
An $800 fee in 1979 bought a lifetime of confidence to share with others ....
Meet our friend and fellow RecruitingBlogs.com enthusiast, Mark E. Berger. Since 1979 he has been a driving force within the staffing community and his accomplishments have been widely recognized.
"Mark has been one of my longest standing heroes and influencers in the business of sourcing. His quiet and humble demeanor exudes an unmatched confidence, while at the same time makes him extremely approachable. From when we first virtually “met” before the turn of the millennium, I have remained a loyal and devoted fan of his work. I can offer no stronger endorsement than the fact that I trust him completely and strive to find more ways in which we can do business together regularly.” December 31, 2007"
Shally Steckerl, Chief CyberSleuth & Founder, JobMachine, Inc, (JobMachine.net)
I should preface my featured article by letting our audience know that Mark and I are fellow travelers within the sourcing community and that we share mutual admiration of our colleagues Shally Steckerl and Glenn Gutmacher. That said, Mark established himself long ago and independently with his SwatRecriting Techniques - so good that it caught the eye of JobMachine and has since joined us as an Adjunct Faculty member since September 2008.
In his role as Adjunct Faculty, Mark conducts online workshops for Swat Recruiting and JobMachine customers, covering many of the topics in the JobMachine curriculum. His specialties inclued demonstrating how to maximize searches on Google, Windows Live and LinkedIn, advanced techniques for finding resumes online, and specialized search engine syntax such as the site: command, intitle: and inurl:.
Mark has been in recruiting and staffing since 1979. He is currently the proprietor of Swat Recruiting (www.swatrecruiting.com), a firm supporting the technology needs of the recruiting and staffing industry.
He has been heavily involved in Internet recruiting ever since there was such a thing and has become an expert on recruiting and sourcing products and services available to the recruiting industry. Mark started utilizing the Internet for candidate sourcing back in the early 1990s by first running classified ads on the text versions or AOL and Compuserve. Then he was an early user of some of the very first online resume databases including Career Mosaic, Headhunter.net, and Online Career Center. In the latter part of the 90s Mark learned advanced techniques to source passive candidates from the Internet using the search engines, primarily utilizing Alta Vista and Northern Lights in the beginning and is now an advanced user of today's popular search engines including Google, Live, and Yahoo. Mark also has a high level of expertise in recruiter databases (ATS’s), including how these products add to the bottom line.
Mark has authored the Internet Recruiting column appearing monthly in The Fordyce Letter since 1998 and is a frequent contributor to other recruiting industry publications. He is also an often requested speaker at many local, regional, and national recruiting industry events.
Mark is also on the board of directors for the Mid-America Association of Personnel Services
Q&A with Mark Berger
Six Degrees: Tell us about your home world Mark.
Mark: To date, my personal life has been fairly private. I am a simple man with simple needs and tastes that leads a fairly uncomplicated yet enjoyable life. I am lucky to have a great job that I love, get to travel fairly regularly, a wonderful family including three great school-aged kids that I am very close with. In whatever free time I do have I enjoy going to yard sales and estate sales, usually on the weekends. You just never know what treasure you will stumble on next.
Six Degrees: How many years have you been in the staffing industry?
Mark: I started in the early days of IT recruiting, 9/17/79. Back then it was nothing more than recruiting COBOL and Assembler programmers on IBM, Honeywell, Univac, and Burroughs “mainframes”. There was a little Fortran on DEC/PDP’s as well. How things have changed… I was at it pretty much full time for many years, close to 28 or so, until I went into recruiter technology training full time back in 2006.
Six Degrees: How did you get started as a recruiter?
Mark: I wish my story could be more dramatic but back in the late 1970s nobody even knew what a “recruiter” was. Most of the time people thought I worked for the military. I remember being doing some shopping one day and bumped into a friend I had worked with in a prior job. He just happened to mention I should come and interview with his boss, who was looking to hire a couple of people. I agreed and although I had no idea what I was walking into nor the impact it would have on the rest of my life, I was offered and accepted the job. After my initial 60 minute training session my boss had me make out a bunch of index cards (pre-computer/pre-database) with all the company names I could find, then started to call those companies to solicit job orders. I made my first placement in my third week…and the rest is history.
Six Degrees: What single event had the most impact on your sourcing/recruiting career?
Mark: Probably that first placement, back in 1979. In this new job of mine, not knowing what I was doing, I did wonder if I was cut out for the task. That first placement, I think for an $800 fee, gave me the confidence I needed to go forward and turn this job into the career that it has been for me.
Do you have a mentor to whom you attribute your overall outlook on recruitment, capabilities, and/or model your career after?
Mark: In my early days, I never had a mentor. I was always jealous of those recruiters who worked for the very few other recruiting companies at the time that actually had big billers on staff to learn from. The company I worked for didn’t really have anyone like that. I always used to tell people back then that the reason I knew what to do at any given time was because I had done it wrong in the past and was able to learn from my mistakes. Later in my career, I’d have to say Paul Hawkinson, long-time editor and publisher of the venerable Fordyce Letter, nurtured my early role as his Internet Recruiting columnist, starting in 1998. His early vision that an Internet column in his newsletter is only one indication of his broadminded outlook on this industry. These days, if I had to pick a mentor it would be Shally, whom I have known for many, many years. Before his name because a household word in our industry. I saw his JobMachine grow from a small, part-time endeavor to become a national influence in the recruitment/sourcing industry. Every time I listen to him speak, I learn something new.
Six Degrees: Tell us about your staffing industry contributions, Mark:
Mark: Currently, I am owner of Swat Recruiting (www.swatrecruiting.com). I actually started Swat many years ago but never really had the time to do what I wanted to do with it. In late 2005 I made the decision to change the focus of my career from placements to training, and have never been happier. Although I do miss the placements from time to time, I feel very fulfilled and actually love my job now. Swat is involved in all types of recruiter technology. Anything computer, Internet, software related. We try and assist recruiting organizations integrate technology into their work environment. There are so many choices out there it is overwhelming for some. Swat Recruiting offers many training sessions, mainly on sourcing passive candidates on the Internet, and most have been very well received by the recruiting community. We also work on marketing plans from time to time with recruiting industry vendors, and have a small ATS consulting practice.
Six Degrees: What other companies' recruiting operations do you admire or have heard are best-practice examples?
Mark: Well…I don’t know about companies, but I do have a few “heroes” I suppose. A couple I already mentioned. Paul Hawkinson, who just received a Lifetime Achievement Award at the most recent NAPS conference, has always been someone I have looked up to, and I am very privileged to have been able to get to know him in my ten-year association with him prior to his retirement. Shally Steckerl is another already mentioned. This man is a true visionary in our chosen field and one that is well-respected throughout. It is my honor and pleasure to be as closely associated with him as I am. Donato Diorio is another. This man is a tireless supporter of our industry, and now only develops some of the finest recruitment software via his Broadlook company, he is also very knowledgeable about the inner workings of our industry. I have had the pleasure of knowing him since the early days of Broadlook.
Six Degrees: What recent general news story or industry trend do you feel will have an impact on your work in the future? Why?
Mark: Lucky for me…the prevailing industry trend is locating passive candidate resources on the Internet, my specialty. As far as this aspect of the recruiting industry has come, I feel like in many ways we are still in its infancy. I think over the next few years networking for candidates will become more and more an accepted way to get those elusive A+ candidates as the pricey resume databases will become less influential.
Six Degrees: I know you have been active on the speaking circuit over the years, Mark can you elaborate on where our colleagues can have an opportunity to see you in action?
Mark: One thing I really enjoy about my career as an industry trainer is that I do get to travel from time to time for public speaking engagements. I have been to Fordyce Forum, the National Association of Personnel Services national conference, MRI, Top Echelon, and IPA regionals. I have also had the pleasure of working with these groups and others including Kennedy Information, NPA, ASA, and many state and local recruiter associations to get the word out about this technology. For many years I have been a Certified Personnel Consultant (CPC) and a Certified Internet Recruiter (CIR). I am also very proud to say I am not an Adjunct Faculty member at JobMachine.net and will be participating on a regular basis in the Webinar Series and be a regular blog contributor.
Six Degrees: What is your next career goal? What do you need to do to get there?
Mark: My career goals are simple. Not only to learn as much as I can about recruiter technology…to stay abreast of everything new and exciting, but to be able to teach what I learn to others, so they can make effective use of these new trends to make more hires or placements.
PART II: “HOW DOES MARK DO IT?”
Six Degrees: What recruitment software tools do you use in your day to day recruitment activities & do they translate effectively within all of the different countries where you recruit?
Mark: In my role as the Internet Recruiting columnist for the Fordyce Letter and industry technology trainer I maintain relations with surely the vast majority of the recruiting industry vendors, ATS, Data/Resume Capture, Contact Databases, etc. People often ask me for my recommendations or favorites, and although I do have them I always encourage people to make their selection based on their own needs, not what I happen to like.
Six Degrees: What tools did you first encounter early in your recruitment career?
Mark: When I first started in the business back in 1979, we used index cards to sort our companies/clients and hard copy resumes for our candidates. This was way before computers, much less the Internet. This was even before fax machines as we had to make copies of resumes and actually mail them (yes, USPS…with a stamp) to our clients. We had file drawers with folders and tabs for different programming languages and/or job titles and/or hardware. Our job was made much more difficult by the fact that if a person had more than one skill, you either had to make a duplicate copy of his resume and file it in a second folder, or, more often forget that he or she was there. We had to rely a lot more on our memories that we do today. Those were the reasons I was a very early proponent of automation/computerization in the recruiting office in the 1980s, as soon as the PC came onto the market. Then in the early nineties, we tried running classified ads for programmers on the text versions of America Online and Compuserve. Snagged a few here and there. The middle nineties brought the early iterations of resume databases including Headhunter.net, Career Mosaic, Online Career Center, etc. All those have since been gobbled up by today’s big services. Then, in the latter part of the nineties, the term “passive candidate” was first coined, and we learned how to use Internet search engines, back then mainly AltaVista and NorthernLights, to search for resumes. Since then it has been a learning process and then a teaching process the last few years.
Six Degrees: How do you personally expect to facilitate change within our industry, and/or at your place of work? If you started that process, outline the problem, your solutions, and the vision.
Mark: The problem, if there is one, depends on the audience. If you talk about HR, this is a group of people not typically trained in sales. You can teach them all about sourcing techniques but once they have sourced a few candidates, they may be unsure as to how to make the connection, how to lure that resource into the fold. The solution here is to give that audience a simple, yet reliable way to make contact and get their foot in the door. Most big companies have this problem licked by dedicating teams of people, however, many smaller and medium sized organizations do not have the financial resources or manpower to do this. They have to be more creative.
If you look at the third-party group, the problem differs a bit. This is a group that is typically highly skilled in sales, however, lack the patience and/or inclination to follow a thorough sourcing process. This needs to be taken into account when presenting to this group. They need some very easy ways to perform this task.
Six Degrees: “Best practice” you are most proud of developing (now or in the past) in your recruiting career?
Mark: Probably preaching a process-oriented approach to sourcing. Technique is one thing. You can get techniques from the Google help pages, but it is only when those techniques are integrated with a comprehensive, multi-pronged approach can one expect to say they have done a thorough job of sourcing their next applicant. So many I talk to run one string in one search engine, grab a few resources and call it a day. Little do they know how much they are leaving on the table for those more thorough competitors.
Six Degrees: Considering all of the frustrations you have experienced in your career as a recruiter, -- what inspires you as you continue in your career?
Mark: One thing that helps is to try hard not to become frustrated. What goes up goes down but conversely, what goes down goes up. There are always good times and bad times in any business. Ride the wave either way it goes and be in it for the long haul.
Six Degrees: What one thing do you ideally hope to accomplish in 2009?
Mark: Next year, one of my professional goals is for my training to become more appealing to an international audience. I have had a couple classes to Australians, Asians, and the English. I want to do more of that. I also want to expand my training to include more of the network available to recruiters. There are so many now it is hard for one to know the good from the great.
Six Degrees: Anything you want to plug?
Mark: Check the JobMachine.net calendar regularly for my webinars. Better yet, sign up to be on the mailing list so you won’t miss the announcements.
Six Degrees: How Are You Going To Change The Recruitment Industry?
Mark: Simple…learn more…teach more.
Listen to Mark in action this Thursday: Free Webinar, Register HERE for "Turbocharged Passive Candidate Sourcing: Best of Telephone, Google & Online Database Research Techniques" with Co-Presenter, Sheila Greco
“I highly recommend anyone to work with Mark. I've trained with him a couple times. He had a wonderful rapport with trainees at all levels. He is always very responsive to questions, feedback, or simple explanations to my issues. His ability to connect with superiors, clients, vendors, and subordinates is what sets Mark apart from other trainers; he had the balance of truly listening and then approaching issues with candid yet insightful knowledge. Mark has excellent written and verbal communication skills, is extremely organized, reliable and a whiz with any sourcing technology. I have emailed him questions and despite her busy schedule he gets back to me immediately and always with a very positive attitude. I recommend Mark without reservation."” May 27, 2008
Teresa Bustamante PHR, CPC, Research Analyst, Avery Dennison
“Mark's down-to-earth writing and seminar teaching style is easy to follow and his strategies are simple to execute. Mark really cares about helping his colleagues and client/students become more efficient and more effective recruiters.” November 25, 2008
Top qualities: Expert, Good Value, High Integrity
“I had the good fortune of attending Mark's Linked-In webinar. Up until this point, I hadn't done much with Linked-In. However, Mark taught many options one could investigate to help in sourcing passive candidates. While I'm just starting out using Linked-In, I'm hopeful that it will be a big help in my building a solid network & provide another alternative to traditional sourcing.” November 3, 2008
Michael Klass, Search Consultant, Joan Leslie Search Group
was with another company when working with Mark E. at Swat Recruiting
“I have taken 2 courses from Mark and look forward to taking more. He knows his stuff and is a great teacher.” October 30, 2008
Top qualities: Great Results, Expert, Good Value
Bill Zajac PE
hired Mark E. as a Business Consultant in 2008, and hired Mark E. more than once
“Mark is truly an expert in the area of recruiting technology analysis. He breaks down the process to even the most minute detail, and is quick to understand the impact technology has on the recruiting process. While I may not always agree with what Mark has to say, I certainly respect his viewpoint, and it makes for great conversation. Thanks for your commitment to our industry, Mark.” August 19, 2008
Mike Tischer, Channel Manager and Sr. Sales Representative, Broadlook Technologies
was with another company when working with Mark E. at Swat Recruiting
“I have worked with Mark on a number of Kennedy Information sponsored seminars. He is a joy to work with because he is a true professional who updates his content on a regular basis and has a great ability to reach his audience. Post report analysis prove that he is popular talent. I look forward to working with Mark in the future.” August 15, 2008
Hillary Kyle Holian, Associate Producer, Kennedy Information, Career Management Alliance, IOMA
“I have had the pleasure of knowing and working with Mark Berger for several years. Mr. Berger is a top notch recruiter and an expert in the application of technology to the recruitment process. He provides a much needed resource to the staffing and recruiting industries through his training programs and leadership. Mark is also a tireless supporter and board member of the Mid America Association of Personnel and Staffing Services. His input and insights have had a tremendous impact on both that organization but also on the many members of that organization.” June 18, 2008
Roger Aistrup, General Manager, Allan James Associates LLC
“I've taken 2 classes from Mark and find his work to be very meaningful and thorough on the subject. He not only has a pleasant manner, you can tell he enjoys what he does. He is extremely knowledgeable and detailed in his presentations and materials. I highly recommend his classes!” March 21, 2008.. Top qualities: Expert, Good Value, Creative
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RecruiterGuy I'll post here when I get my beta back. I got a confirmation.
Denyse Diem ps - fonolo is not accepting new emails
Denyse Diem I think that name's gonna stick JK - I mean Lil' Ray!
Maureen Good night! Spread the word!
Adam Peterson thanks jason and maureen (and can't forget lil ray)
John Kennedy later, all ...
Adam Peterson g'nite all you east coasters!
John Kennedy Probably will be asleep then but will be looking forward to the transcript
Maureen See you next week - send me your ideas for topics you'd like to see discussed!
Maureen Good night Jason. Thank you all for attending this first ever MagicMethod Midnight Moves Phone Sourcing Chat - you've made RBC history!
Denyse Diem great for next week I guess! will be throwing a big b'day bash for hubbie so w't be able to make it next week.
John Kennedy used to work alot of 2 to 10's at the TV stations
Maureen I forgot to talk about sourcing in manufacturing - 2nd and 3rd shift workers are ever so helpful!
Jason Davis Maureen, I'll leave it like this till tomorrow am. I need to hit the sack
John Kennedy 3 to midnight, 5 to 1, something like that
Maureen 2nd being 6-3 ?
John Kennedy 3rd freaks me out a bit as by the time I wake up at or whatever the next day I can't tell "this morning" from "yesterday"
John Kennedy I do best 2nd ...
Maureen Maybe we can talk about that next time - how to best use your Body's Time Clock
John Kennedy I have been 1st for years now and I still can't get used to it
Denyse Diem insomniac JK?
Maureen So you're a Night Owl John?
John Kennedy Don't know if this would be it ... but definitely something to think about
Maureen Let's keep an eye out for subjects we can bring to chat on this issue - show and tell!
John Kennedy But I have been looking for something to get me back on 2nd or 3rd shift for a while
Adam Peterson "Dark Side Sourcing"
Maureen Dark Time Sourcing
Maureen I like that idea John and will think on it.
John Kennedy Where YOU would have vendors that employ ... well ... techniques best exercised in the dark
Maureen Jason, I find this chat kinda "sticky" to use. Though it could be MY clumsy fingers.
Denyse Diem Thanks again Maureen. Have a great Sunday everyone!
Maureen I wish I could type! I will fix the spelling errors in the transcript.
John Kennedy Interesting ... perhaps there could be ANOTHER bifurcation into "Daylight" and "Vampire" sourcing
RecruiterGuy As usual.. great chat, Maureen.
Maureen Night time "assaults", as you'd all them, accomplish this many times.
Maureen AND YOU NEED TO GET THROUGH.
Maureen That's not so true John. There are times when daytime work (Gatekeeperson, Admins, Exec Assts) just aren't "hacking" it.
Adam Peterson not from me - learned a lot. thank you Maureen!
Maureen Anyone have any questions?
Maureen We'll do this again next Saturday and keep it up for awhile to see how it goes...
John Kennedy So of the remaining % it sounds like so many more come from a full frontal gatekeeper run that anything additional you'd get at night may not even be worth the time
Maureen 80/20 applies when sourcing - spend 20% Internet sourcing/research and 80% on the phone
John Kennedy And, well, the 30% active would have been taken care of before they made it to sourcers ...
RecruiterGuy other than my work schedule going nuts sometimes... I'm good in the day
Maureen I'm curious if anyone attended tight who could not attend the weekly day-time chats?
John Kennedy or more likely 95/5 rule ...
John Kennedy although in recruiting it usually comes down to 90/10 rule ...
John Kennedy the old 80/20 rule ...
Maureen I agree w/ that but that's true in all things.
John Kennedy There are some things worth spending your time and some that aren't ...
John Kennedy BUT, the overall conclusion is that I've drawn is that in recruiting in general ...
John Kennedy Yes, it takes me a while to make a point ...
John Kennedy I remember this one fellow who kept saying that certain people had a "real '' attitude" ...
John Kennedy and one thing you see with that is a tendency to try to label EVERYTHING ...
John Kennedy Well, you see, I have alot of Asperger's running through my family ...
Maureen But what was your point - I felt you were going somewhere w/ it..
John Kennedy I think someone said it was Monday and I didn't think even the latest place is Monday yet
Maureen I love the Sharibian comment - John - my econ professors at UC would be so proud of me...
John Kennedy after heads-down, no LinkedIn profile, no user group involvement, no articles individual contributors ...
Maureen John what was your point before about Sunday being the latest time on earth?
John Kennedy Frt-door, full-frontal gatekeeper assault ...
John Kennedy The remaining 70% is ... well ... Sharibian ...
John Kennedy about30 % "active" candidates - major job boards, answering ads, conventional stuff ...
John Kennedy ALL recruiting combined ...
Denyse Diem Can we just call you Lil Ray, John?
Maureen Me too Adam. I always enjoy having John in these chats- he has a way of smackin' us all upside the head occasionally...
John Kennedy the picture that's getting painted ...
John Kennedy BUT ... based... what ... two years of ERE traffic ...
John Kennedy Oh, always ... but sometimes I'm not sure what case I'm building
Maureen "little ray" I can see that...
Denyse Diem LOL
Maureen "...manipulating my victims"? LOL Are you building a case John?
Denyse Diem There is a Sourcing Conference in Miami - apologies - thought you would get the op to meet Maureen and understand her brain dump instead of tape dump....
Maureen You'll learn yours if you take this up.
John Kennedy In my immediate circle of friends I'm known as "The little ray of sunshine"
Maureen THEN the Executive Asst to the C level - then the Admin Asst to the dept. In that order. For me. Everyone has their favored paths.
Adam Peterson vampires, stress patterns, victims <- love the positive spin on all this
Maureen YES John.
Maureen But, if I understand you correctly, you'd still say the front-line gatekeeper is still the most productive source of information?
John Kennedy Miami?
John Kennedy Yes, if you have movies with "live" soundtracks that would probably give me enough to pick up the stress patterns where you are manipulating your victims
Maureen probably so John.
Denyse Diem John will you be in Miami this September?
Maureen That's right - I ‘member D. First module - there's a couple lessons on phone banks and how to title ID the names you get those banks!
John Kennedy Wait a sec ... the latest it is anywhere on Earth right now is about 6pm Sunday I think
Maureen John, you keep talkin' about "tape dumps". I don't HAVE tape dumps. Though you would enjoy seeing the real time sourcing movie we made last year - it was filmed over the course of two days and is actual phone sourcing - I show it at training seminars and the reactions are always good - "Riveting" it's been called!
Denyse Diem Monday - - The week/end is shot already. As I mentioned, much afoot this weekend.
John Kennedy Yeppers
Denyse Diem tape dump = pod cast correct JK?
Maureen D - Magic goes through all this - have you started yet?
Maureen Yes D it's a very good place to start for a new sourcer - practicing phone banks and using the names you get them when you phone source the next day.
John Kennedy But, again, to do a proper analysis, I'd need a tape dump
John Kennedy Correct ... there's such a thing as going too far to create a sense of urgency ...
Denyse Diem good point John - hadn't thought of that
Maureen I think that's ridiculous to act like that.
Maureen Interesting point John. But I never (as far as I can tell) create panic. At least I think I don’t. I know sourcers who will call and imperiously say stuff like "You must give me the name of...or else your boss is going to hear about your (intransigence) and believe me there will be hell to pay!”
Denyse Diem would that be a suggestion for a new sourcer? doing the phone banks I mean...
John Kennedy But, if I understand you correctly, you'd still say the front-line gatekeeper is still the most productive source of information?
John Kennedy and it may be possible that South Asian culture maybe has something along a "maintain an even strain" element to it that it is difficult for them to project that sense of urgency/panic.
Maureen AND they can reveal the most amazing information!
Maureen Phone banks can really teach you alot though about sourcing - they force you to THINK about ways in.
John Kennedy she does get the "building on fire" sense of urgency through her voice that I understand is absolutely necessary for any part of the recruiting business ...
Maureen When I first started sourcing I would spend hours and hours doing phone banks - usually I'd get up early (about 2 ) and work til they opened doing phone banks - I don’t do much of that anymore.
John Kennedy and although I haven't had a chance to review an actual tape dump, based on the transcripts I would have to say ...
Maureen Anyhoo- anyone have any good night time stories about sourcing?
John Kennedy It sounds like, of what I have read so far, Maureen is about as "mild" as you get in the sourcing business ...
Maureen John, It's hard to find articles on ERE I find - it seems sometimes search works better than others - you have most luck searching w/in a specific group - try Sourcing Techniques group first John - then ASK - use "culture" as keyword.
John Kennedy Well, if I have to hazard a guess ...
Maureen Try search Google, John - culture difficulty indian sourcing – use those words
John Kennedy I'm almost certain it was ERE. Maybe six months ago.
John Kennedy I wish I would have saved it.
John Kennedy but it was very specific language he used about not being able to navigate the culture for such an endeavor...
Maureen Me too D.
Denyse Diem JK - I would love to understand what they perceive as our 'intricacies of culture'
John Kennedy Possibly ... perhaps based on many experience with outsourced customer service ...
Maureen I ask that because I still see most sourcing requests (even from outside US) for sourcing out of US companies that are located within IN US.
Maureen Maybe so. Do you think there is resistance to SE Asian culture here?
John Kennedy but they said they couldn't do phone sourcing because they couldn't navigate the intricacies of the culture
Maureen Yes D
Maureen Same phenomenon in other parts of the world. Mostly. I've sourced Australia, China Japan India and Europe - same thing most places - the place I find difficult to source is Mexico - if you can believe it - it's hard to get people who speak English there on the phone!
John Kennedy they were saying they had subscriptions to something like two billion resume databases and several other tools ...
Denyse Diem let me rephrase Maureen - would you said you gain access to information far more readily b/c people really want to help someone from the US?
John Kennedy But, yes, I need to do a better job of holding to these articles ... but there was something about an Indian company that did virtual recruiting ...
John Kennedy So I can see something like that might go on when you call ...
John Kennedy And I remember hear them saying, as if it was Christmas morning or some such, "It's Louise in America!"
Maureen Interesting John. I'm interested to hear that.
John Kennedy She called the UK frequently because some of their governing structure is there ...
Maureen It' s not hard to source abroad - remember D sourcing is simple but it's NOT easy!
John Kennedy Oh, yes ... I remember that phenomenon from my grandmother who used to be very active in the structure of the United Methodist Church ...
Maureen That's why I wonder about what those southeast asian (Indian) companies mean...though maybe the Southeast Asian accent is more of a handicap here in the states? I dunno...
Denyse Diem so would you say it's easier to source abroad then?
Maureen When I call Canada it works almost EVETY SINGLE TIME.
Maureen NO KIDDING
Maureen Good question John. PRETTY MUCH the same techniques work ONLY in some countries, when I say, “This is Maureen Sharib calling from the U.S." I can hear them drop what they're doing and most of them drop what they're doing to HELP me in whatever way they can.
Denyse Diem Amie - do you recruit/source abroad?
John Kennedy Do you run into similar issues when calling outside the country or do the same techniques that work here work there?
Maureen When I hit the morning guard I use the evening guard's name..."Oh, has Joe left already? Maybe YOU can help me..." It helps me establish a slight familiarity immediately.
John Kennedy I remember seeing a posting from an Indian recruiting company that they really couldn't do names sourcing because they couldn't navigate the culture properly ...
RecruiterGuy Not much... but did just fill a comp & benefits title in the UK.
John Kennedy Actually, that would bring up an interesting question ...
Denyse Diem what about the rest of you - what % of your work is abroad in other time zones?
Maureen Growing but still a small %.
Denyse Diem -- both abroad and I hope I take it
Maureen Denyse Usually persons, D. A small part of my biz is overseas.
Maureen Usually around 6 or 7.
Maureen Early mornings are very good times to call too - when the guard shift changes.
Denyse Diem SO when you call abroad, are you all calling phone banks as well as live folks?
Maureen But I don’t see it that way John. I see it as common sense conversational techniques.
John Kennedy You have a grandfathered flat mthly long distance over POTS plan? No wonder you're in the business you're in ...
Maureen Unusual - LOL Maybe so.
John Kennedy Or perhaps the more Constitutionally phrased "unusual" would be a better description
Maureen I use a pay e price per month plan. TTI I think it is - they don’t offer it anymore but I hang on for dear life through a grandfather clause.
Maureen (Loaded question)
Maureen John, do you think we use unconventional methods to extract information?
John Kennedy Well what LD carrier do you have that you can afford to war dial Hong Kong??
John Kennedy Yes ... generally speaking hacking is attempting to extract information from a database through ... unconventional methods ... much as your phone sourcing is extracting similar information from humans
Maureen Phone hacking. Hmmm...
Maureen I don’t use Skype- I always use land lines.
John Kennedy re Hong Kong - you have a pretty healthy Skype account there, eh, Maureen?
RecruiterGuy Isn't that how some of us fell into recruiting?
John Kennedy Why of course ... seems this "sourcing" has much in common with, by some measurements, a much older and more intense practice called "hacking"
Maureen That is certainly one of the things we can do in the middle of the night with the phone - can anyone think of others?
maren oh yeah! I got that too!
Maureen Someone said before class started that one thing we can do in the middle of the night is call other countries -Europe is hrs or so ahead of us Hong Kong 13 hrs or so .
RecruiterGuy Found it... link (RG - this link needs correction - I lost it in transcription)
Maureen Yes, war dialing - John you come up w/ some interesting catch phrases! May I use them?
John Kennedy Oooooooh ... you mean war dialing the directory
Maureen I mean the names in the thing - all the names listed under ABC, all the names under DEF and so ...
John Kennedy Now by phone trees you mean the menu structure?
Maureen RG - in beta - a service that will do phone trees? What is it?
John Kennedy Service in beta?
Maureen Yes, you can John. During the DAY as well!
RecruiterGuy /me digs in bookmarks.
RecruiterGuy Hmmm.... seems I was looking at a service that is in beta now that will perform that automatically for ya' now.
John Kennedy You can find out a very great deal from the back door guard at night.
Maureen The answer is yes John.
Maureen would be quite fascinated to learn if a person can extract a useful number of names by hammering the automated directories
RecruiterGuy the phone tree was the first step, mind you... I didn't find THEM in it.
John Kennedy Actually I hadn't actually thought of it, but I did that by accident before I even got in the recruiting business.
Maureen Do you want to learn John about phone banking?
RecruiterGuy I hired two brokers in a month span that were a result of working my way through a phone tree.
Maureen We have 24 online now - welcome!
Maureen Would you have DARED to do that? Do you see it as daring? Calling a security guard in the middle of the night?
John Kennedy But I would be quite fascinated to learn if a person can extract a useful number of names by hammering the automated directories
Maureen Did you all read "Middle of the Night Sourcing" – the post in the Forum section? Would you have thought to do that? When I was new I wouldn’t have!
John Kennedy Well, with almost 100% contract employees I've never really had a need ...
Maureen Do you know how to do it?
Maureen What are you curious about John?
John Kennedy The other thing is that if your "victim" is a piece of machinery now THAT I might be able to do
RecruiterGuy Ahhhh voicemail.... that brings back memories of learning call trees after hours and taking shots at spelling with the number pad for names and titles in voicemail. lol
Maureen That's also true RG - I LOVE to source around holidays - we have a good one coming up – Labor Day!.
Maureen That's true John. I like the imagery!
RecruiterGuy It's always challenging to get past the gatekeeper.... but they were always a little more vulnerable right before a weekend or when trying to scoot out for a holiday weekend. Catching them in just the right moment is always helpful.
John Kennedy Is that there are some true vampires of sourcing ... that can bring a voice mail directory to its knees at 2 am.
Denyse Diem Hello, I'm just entering the field of Sourcing and looking to learn all I can from you experienced Sourcers
Maureen Why so John?
John Kennedy But what I'm curious about that I've heard Maureen mention once or twice ...
Maureen “…when someone would give me anything just to get off the phone” - Explain that, RG - what did you do that made yourself so uhhh..."vexing"?
John Kennedy Yes ... - is a remarkably productive half hour ...
RecruiterGuy Not this late at night. But early in the morning worked well as did right toward the end of the day when someone would give me anything just to get the phone.
Amie E Yes, Phone, Internet, I’m not committed to one, I use whatever it takes.
Maureen RG - did you ever do it AT NIGHT?
Maureen Amie, do you phone source?
RecruiterGuy Hello - I used to perform heavy phone sourcing when I was a headhunter ~ years ago. I recruited for brokerage managers.
John Kennedy Morbid curiosity
Amie E how about jill of all trades??
Maureen What brings you all here tight?
Maureen Any Internet sourcers? Introduce yourselves!
Maureen Welcome to the MagicMethod Midnight Moves Sourcing Chat! Do we have any phone sourcers among us?
Midnight – Chat officially starts
Adam Peterson you guys on the east coast are hard core - this is a perfect dinner break here in CA
Denyse Diem JK - refresh your screen or go up to your url bar and enter twice - that should help
Maureen You’ll get used to it fast John - I hope Animal shows up tight - I don’t think he's going to though. He's prob’ly FAST asleep. I don’t dare wake him.
John Kennedy Okay ... this scrolling up is going to drive me nuts.
Maureen If any of you want to tweet that class is about to start - that would be cool! Make sure you give them the site link!
Maureen Have you all read the post I put up this morning in the Forum? It’s called “Middle of the Night Sourcing.”. Read it before class starts – it’s along the lines of what we’re going to be talking about in here tight in the midnight chat.
Denyse Diem wow - very useful!
Amie E It takes the persons email addy, shows their LI profile, if you are connected with them, and your email history with that person.. it also shows how many new contacts you connected with.. neat management tool
Maureen Jason, these logs become tutorials as well!
Amie E My newest widget is xobni, it is an outlook tool I liking alot
Denyse Diem now I hear it
Denyse Diem test
RecruiterGuy Okay... so I sent out some tweets about stracka.com... and I posted on some forums I hang out ... and now I'm getting notices like CRAZY about people joining. At least in the last days. Hmmmm....
RecruiterGuy Yup. lol
Adam Peterson RG - gotta mic?
Adam Peterson ...and then enable the sound feature
Adam Peterson try clicking the "+" button on the bottom right
Adam Peterson is it only working for me??
Jason Davis I don’t hear it either
Denyse Diem no sound here either - do we need to do anything in particular to hear it?
Amie E I not hearing it
Adam Peterson It works for me
Maureen That's cool but I don’t hear it - do I need to do something here?
Maureen This would do away w/ that old familiar war cry "You changed my words you so-and-so!"
Jason Davis Maureen, I enabled sound when a new post goes up i think. let me know if it is good
Maureen Jason, I really like the cache feature of this chat service. Look down below at the number of cached pages already!
Adam Peterson (well, that was my point of view at the time)
Adam Peterson I'm sorry, I realized i was giving away contact info to a recruiter
Maureen Adam, when did you realize what happened?
Adam Peterson the guy in the cube next to me heard my side of the conversation and thought something was up - so i started asking questions
Maureen So Adam, you know these things happen? How do you know that was a recruiter?
Maureen Click here for international time zones or to find out yours.
Adam Peterson the recruiter who called was a little sketchier - claimed they worked for my company, their network was down
Maureen What happened Adam?
Maureen We're going to be talking about the things you can do with a telephone in the middle of the night. Any of you have any ideas what some of those things might be?
Adam Peterson to be honest, it reminded me of my first job out of college (i-banking) where I was the one who got called at a slightly off hour
Maureen Amie, did you read "Middle of the Night Sourcing"?
Maureen What did you like about it Adam?
Adam Peterson great story posted in the forum btw
Adam Peterson Maureen, I'm planning listening in
Maureen Who is here for Midnight Moves?
Warm –Up – this conversation started a half hour or so before class started.…