Comments - Don't Hire a "Tim Tebow" Candidate - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T05:51:45Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=502551%3ABlogPost%3A1045352&xn_auth=noJeremy, social bonds in small…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-08-17:502551:Comment:10543422010-08-17T14:32:17.747ZMartin H.Snyderhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MartinHSnyder
Jeremy, social bonds in small groups are the most powerful motivators by far, but they dont just happen. Any knowledge of literature, sports, or military history indicates that those groups that attain a spirit of elan are able to trancend individual players, although there is often one stellar talent at the core.<br />
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From what little I know of Tebow off the field, he is a stand-up guy, although I don't like his politics. How that plays out on a pro-football team is a much different question than…
Jeremy, social bonds in small groups are the most powerful motivators by far, but they dont just happen. Any knowledge of literature, sports, or military history indicates that those groups that attain a spirit of elan are able to trancend individual players, although there is often one stellar talent at the core.<br />
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From what little I know of Tebow off the field, he is a stand-up guy, although I don't like his politics. How that plays out on a pro-football team is a much different question than college.<br />
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Sometimes you just can't tell who can lead until they go over the wall and the battle is raging. Sometimes you have a pretty good idea, other times it's some previous nobody finally standing in charge when the smoke clears, and thats why recruiting is complex and always will be. I know where you were going w…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-08-16:502551:Comment:10529402010-08-16T20:49:35.037ZTony Criscihttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TonyCrisci
I know where you were going with your post, I just didn't think the example fit what you were trying to say. I'd be more likely to pick on a Todd Marinovich, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Joey Harrington or JaMarcus Russell. It's hard to compare draft picks out of college to people in the regular workforce. To me stats refer to past accomplishments, I think you have to judge them by where they happened. For instance if Tim Tebow accomplished the same things playing in the Mountain West division…
I know where you were going with your post, I just didn't think the example fit what you were trying to say. I'd be more likely to pick on a Todd Marinovich, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Joey Harrington or JaMarcus Russell. It's hard to compare draft picks out of college to people in the regular workforce. To me stats refer to past accomplishments, I think you have to judge them by where they happened. For instance if Tim Tebow accomplished the same things playing in the Mountain West division instead, I would be less likely to take a chance on him, but since he did it against much tougher defenses in the SEC his stats mean a lot more to me. Now I believe we are on the same page regarding certifications, just because someone has their PMP doesn't mean I'd hire them to lead projects for me unless they had some experience that I could look at to determine actual ability. I have seen many "certified" people who aren't competent in their current role, but might be better working with other companies under different circumstances. Regarding foundational flaws, as long as the flaws aren't illegal or related to bad character but they can get the results that a Tim Tebow can point to, I would take that chance. Thanks for the feedback Tony.…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-08-16:502551:Comment:10527702010-08-16T19:05:57.908ZJeremy Fanninghttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JeremyFanning
Thanks for the feedback Tony. While I agree with you in some capacity, I think that my intent with the article was not as deep of comparison as you are making. That's probably my fault for not spelling that out up front.<br />
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The point I was trying to make in the post is where there's smoke, there's usually fire. When most NFL and College Football analyst out there are saying, "Tebow was great in the college ranks, but we don't see him succeeding in NFL", are you more apt to take a chance on that…
Thanks for the feedback Tony. While I agree with you in some capacity, I think that my intent with the article was not as deep of comparison as you are making. That's probably my fault for not spelling that out up front.<br />
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The point I was trying to make in the post is where there's smoke, there's usually fire. When most NFL and College Football analyst out there are saying, "Tebow was great in the college ranks, but we don't see him succeeding in NFL", are you more apt to take a chance on that person (and potentially pay them serious $$), or are you willing let another team take that chance? Risk to reward is somewhat low with Tebow based on public opinion.<br />
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If you compare that to potential candidates – if they have good “stats”, but when you talk to them, are missing things such as the items I outlined above, are you willing to take that chance? Are their previous “stats” enough for success with your company, even if they could have some potential foundational-flaws?<br />
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What are your thoughts? Do you think I’m completely off-base here? (And I don't think I should get into a full QB debate with my Cleveland Browns... that's probably for another blog...) Thanks for the feedback! Just because I'm in a snarky…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-08-13:502551:Comment:10456002010-08-13T21:44:24.653ZTony Criscihttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TonyCrisci
Just because I'm in a snarky mood I think I'll bite. So are you saying don't hire standout recent college grads? Or are you saying that Tim doesn't have good communication skills, the ability to adapt, or the eagerness to succeed? So of the 2010 draft class which QB would you have picked as there were only 13 others who were picked after him with about 9 others that were eligible for the draft and weren't selected. I believe you're team got Colt McCoy, were you bummed because Clausen was…
Just because I'm in a snarky mood I think I'll bite. So are you saying don't hire standout recent college grads? Or are you saying that Tim doesn't have good communication skills, the ability to adapt, or the eagerness to succeed? So of the 2010 draft class which QB would you have picked as there were only 13 others who were picked after him with about 9 others that were eligible for the draft and weren't selected. I believe you're team got Colt McCoy, were you bummed because Clausen was already off he board? Now I'm definitely not a Bronco's fan, but when you have the stats that show you are a proven winner in what many regard as the best conference in college football, how can you ignore that? I always think it's funny when people look at a perceived flaw in a QB's delivery (which he's apparently compensated for pretty well based on his past performance) and believe he's done before he even starts a game. Don't hire a Tim Tebow... really?