Comments - Preparing for Counter Offers before they Occur! - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T14:35:52Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=502551%3ABlogPost%3A1110815&xn_auth=noThis is why Thabo we as we Re…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-22:502551:Comment:11122232010-11-22T16:07:06.563ZPaul Alfredhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulAlfred
This is why Thabo we as we Recruiters need to take full control of the process - There will be vulnerabilities none-the-less more so for candidates with less work experience ...
This is why Thabo we as we Recruiters need to take full control of the process - There will be vulnerabilities none-the-less more so for candidates with less work experience ... Paul I get that and agree wit…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-21:502551:Comment:11120462010-11-21T18:45:22.194ZThabohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Thabo
Paul I get that and agree with you. What I am saying is you can go through all that and a candidate genuinely had an intention to leave and actually believed they would not make a counter offer. I am not saying the decision is right or sustainable, I am saying consider how vulnerable the candidate is at the point the counter offer is made. A disgruntled employee would not have a problem, but someone serious about leaving can be pressured into questioning their own point of view and thought…
Paul I get that and agree with you. What I am saying is you can go through all that and a candidate genuinely had an intention to leave and actually believed they would not make a counter offer. I am not saying the decision is right or sustainable, I am saying consider how vulnerable the candidate is at the point the counter offer is made. A disgruntled employee would not have a problem, but someone serious about leaving can be pressured into questioning their own point of view and thought process. There is a long enough period to twist that rubber arm and we all know that flattery will get you everywhere. As I said, it does not mean the candidate is making the right decision, but the reality is as well prepared as the recruiter and the candidate might be for the possibility, there is a blind side effect. It is the humble candidates who don' believe it could happen that are most vulnerable as they are taken aback by the amount of new attention they receive. Thanks for your feedback Thab…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-21:502551:Comment:11120452010-11-21T18:30:37.741ZPaul Alfredhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulAlfred
Thanks for your feedback Thabo ... The question is have you been straight up with your candidate from the beginning with respect to Counter Offers - You can't control a candidate's employer's motives for providing one - you can however affect how that candidate reacts if one is presented ... A well executed Counter Offer begs to question the Employer's true motive and on acceptance of a Counter questions the loyalties between Employer and Employee ...
Thanks for your feedback Thabo ... The question is have you been straight up with your candidate from the beginning with respect to Counter Offers - You can't control a candidate's employer's motives for providing one - you can however affect how that candidate reacts if one is presented ... A well executed Counter Offer begs to question the Employer's true motive and on acceptance of a Counter questions the loyalties between Employer and Employee ... Some people think and believe…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-21:502551:Comment:11120422010-11-21T18:16:07.595ZThabohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Thabo
Some people think and believe they would not accept a counter offer until it happens. It's like training, nothing like the real thing. A well executed counter offer, utilising fear tactics can take even the most logical person out of the game, particularly if the zeros are enough to confuse the brain for that split second. Most counter offers are made as a form of self preservation by the employer making it, so you can be sure it will come with firepower!
Some people think and believe they would not accept a counter offer until it happens. It's like training, nothing like the real thing. A well executed counter offer, utilising fear tactics can take even the most logical person out of the game, particularly if the zeros are enough to confuse the brain for that split second. Most counter offers are made as a form of self preservation by the employer making it, so you can be sure it will come with firepower! Thanks for the feedback Barba…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-19:502551:Comment:11118152010-11-19T20:39:02.656ZPaul Alfredhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulAlfred
Thanks for the feedback Barbara ... Perhaps we will be better prepared when the market does come back in full force ...
Thanks for the feedback Barbara ... Perhaps we will be better prepared when the market does come back in full force ... Thanks for the post, I agree…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-19:502551:Comment:11117342010-11-19T20:19:02.868ZBarbara Goldmanhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/BarbaraGoldman
Thanks for the post, I agree with you, it's best to end the process if the candidate is going to accept a counter offer. Think of all the work involved for no gain.<br />
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Your candidate's current employer is the one who has decided the worth of your candidate. Your client only knows that in the marketplace, this candidate is worth X. So, I encourage the candidate to ask for a raise immediately if money is at all an issue. If the candidate has told me that he will entertain a counter offer, and if…
Thanks for the post, I agree with you, it's best to end the process if the candidate is going to accept a counter offer. Think of all the work involved for no gain.<br />
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Your candidate's current employer is the one who has decided the worth of your candidate. Your client only knows that in the marketplace, this candidate is worth X. So, I encourage the candidate to ask for a raise immediately if money is at all an issue. If the candidate has told me that he will entertain a counter offer, and if that same candidate then refuses to ask for his raise before interviewing with my client, I cancel the interview.<br />
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It takes a lot of courage to actually cancel an interview. When I train new recruiters, that is always my stance, but then .....<br />
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Sometimes, the placement works out. :)<br />
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That's what I love about this business, you just never know. Throughout the process, we are constantly negotiating. And, like anything else, there are the exceptions.<br />
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As the economy turns around, counteroffers will be back with full force. For us anyway, we rarely have faced a counter offer in the past two years. It has felt weird to me. No worries RA ... Takes a lot…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-19:502551:Comment:11117262010-11-19T19:36:46.022ZPaul Alfredhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulAlfred
No worries RA ... Takes a lot to piss me off .. I went to an all boys school ... :)
No worries RA ... Takes a lot to piss me off .. I went to an all boys school ... :) haha. I didn't mean to reprod…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-19:502551:Comment:11116132010-11-19T15:44:41.011ZRecruiting Animalhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/canadianheadhunter
haha. I didn't mean to reproduce the article. Just the part at the top. Forgot to edit the rest out and now I can't. Heard some good stuff about you today. If you want to be a guest on the Recruiting Animal Show, let me know. It's not for sissies but you don't seem to be one.
haha. I didn't mean to reproduce the article. Just the part at the top. Forgot to edit the rest out and now I can't. Heard some good stuff about you today. If you want to be a guest on the Recruiting Animal Show, let me know. It's not for sissies but you don't seem to be one. Sandra you make a good point…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-19:502551:Comment:11114932010-11-19T12:38:50.212ZPaul Alfredhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulAlfred
Sandra you make a good point ...Then the battle begins ... Welcome to world of the Killer Recruiters ..
Sandra you make a good point ...Then the battle begins ... Welcome to world of the Killer Recruiters .. Yes I agree Pam Soft closes d…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2010-11-19:502551:Comment:11114922010-11-19T12:36:48.455ZPaul Alfredhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulAlfred
Yes I agree Pam Soft closes do work I just wanted to be clear Pam that your candidate does not go out to your client not being closed - Perhaps a blog on closing the Client is needed ... My scenario is in a Market where its humming along and a candidate has more offers and handlers - the unclosed candidate will win out to the Recruiter who has fully covered his/her bases.
Yes I agree Pam Soft closes do work I just wanted to be clear Pam that your candidate does not go out to your client not being closed - Perhaps a blog on closing the Client is needed ... My scenario is in a Market where its humming along and a candidate has more offers and handlers - the unclosed candidate will win out to the Recruiter who has fully covered his/her bases.