Comments - Employer No Hire Polices Because of Criminal Pasts - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T13:31:28Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=502551%3ABlogPost%3A1167732&xn_auth=noTake your cap off in the hous…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-15:502551:Comment:11977012011-05-15T04:18:48.001ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
Take your cap off in the house. I know your mother told you that and she meant it. Nasty damn baseball caps much more offensive than second hand smoke almost as bad as "used kids". I used to keep business cards that belonged to the director of Planned Parenthood to drop off to the rude people who drag babies to restaurants where the kid and everybody else is miserable.<br />
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It's just not right.
Take your cap off in the house. I know your mother told you that and she meant it. Nasty damn baseball caps much more offensive than second hand smoke almost as bad as "used kids". I used to keep business cards that belonged to the director of Planned Parenthood to drop off to the rude people who drag babies to restaurants where the kid and everybody else is miserable.<br />
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It's just not right. ...but I digress, or rather,…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-14:502551:Comment:11974042011-05-14T18:27:01.337ZValentino Martinezhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ValentinoMartinez
...but I digress, or rather, regress.
...but I digress, or rather, regress. Damn, dinged again...I love n…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-14:502551:Comment:11974032011-05-14T18:24:58.575ZValentino Martinezhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ValentinoMartinez
Damn, dinged again...I love nasty caps with their smell of fermented sweat long converted to an odor that can throw off a bloodhound for weeks. I'm afraid since the balding began that nasty caps have become the preferred look...but in my defense I do advertise various universities, events and sports teams that have a following of sorts. And depending on the restaurant, my nasty cap(s) tend to fit in with the others in a jubilee of sorts.
Damn, dinged again...I love nasty caps with their smell of fermented sweat long converted to an odor that can throw off a bloodhound for weeks. I'm afraid since the balding began that nasty caps have become the preferred look...but in my defense I do advertise various universities, events and sports teams that have a following of sorts. And depending on the restaurant, my nasty cap(s) tend to fit in with the others in a jubilee of sorts. Ah, the screaming, obnoxious…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-14:502551:Comment:11970182011-05-14T17:05:18.003ZGordon Basichishttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/GordonBasichis
Ah, the screaming, obnoxious kids in the restaurant system...usually punctuated with the occasional "now honey, please, you shouldn't really do that." My favorite, especially first thing in the morning at breakfast or in a decent restaurant where you are trying to relax. So adorable. A living poster for the need for greater contraception. But I digress.
Ah, the screaming, obnoxious kids in the restaurant system...usually punctuated with the occasional "now honey, please, you shouldn't really do that." My favorite, especially first thing in the morning at breakfast or in a decent restaurant where you are trying to relax. So adorable. A living poster for the need for greater contraception. But I digress. No offense taken. My comment…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-14:502551:Comment:11970102011-05-14T15:28:32.088ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
No offense taken. My comment "it is what it is" related totally to employer policies of not hiring convicted felons. I would say the same thing about a policy of not hiring someone who tanked a drug test even though I might not think it was problem if they smoked a joint a month ago when another candidate had been drunk as a skunk five nights a week but sailed through the drug test. Individual situations have all sorts of twists and turns but companies have to have general policies that they…
No offense taken. My comment "it is what it is" related totally to employer policies of not hiring convicted felons. I would say the same thing about a policy of not hiring someone who tanked a drug test even though I might not think it was problem if they smoked a joint a month ago when another candidate had been drunk as a skunk five nights a week but sailed through the drug test. Individual situations have all sorts of twists and turns but companies have to have general policies that they adhere to even if there are individual situations where "it's just not right".<br />
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I don't think it's right that I have to go out to dinner then have to sit next to somebody's screaming obnoxious kids or have to look at some dumb ass duck who wears a baseball cap in a restaurant but it is what it is.<br />
My attitude about David or Goliath depends on which one can control their kids in public and which one has enough sense to take their nasty cap off inside.<br />
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We all have our hot buttons. ;) Sandra,
My comment was made o…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-14:502551:Comment:11968982011-05-14T04:38:32.290ZValentino Martinezhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ValentinoMartinez
<p>Sandra,</p>
<p>My comment was made out of context with the subject of this discussion--and I should have pointed that out from the start. It was meant as a stand alone statement in response to what I considered a stand alone statement. My comment was not meant to tie into this discussion's subject of "Employer No Hire Policies Because of Criminal Pasts". So I apologize for possibly getting your dander-up unnecessarily.</p>
<p>To clarify, you said, <strong>"Some things are just not "right"…</strong></p>
<p>Sandra,</p>
<p>My comment was made out of context with the subject of this discussion--and I should have pointed that out from the start. It was meant as a stand alone statement in response to what I considered a stand alone statement. My comment was not meant to tie into this discussion's subject of "Employer No Hire Policies Because of Criminal Pasts". So I apologize for possibly getting your dander-up unnecessarily.</p>
<p>To clarify, you said, <strong>"Some things are just not "right" but what can you do if it is what it is?"</strong></p>
<p>I keyed in on your admittance that <u>some things are not "right",</u> and responded to your question, "...but what can you do if it is what it is?" Also, the, "it is what it is" statement rankled me because it sounds like some things are above reproach—that people have long ago surrendered to them so why get excited, e.g., "might makes right"; or "my way or the highway". I tend to stand with the underdog, the disadvantaged when “it is what is” is being foisted on people, places or critters. </p>
<p>So, by asking: <strong>"Isn't accepting some things that are not "right" because "they are what they are" a form of cop out?"—</strong><strong>was my dig in a universal sense of good vs. not good--I was not challenging the way you do business. </strong></p>
<p>The condition of slavery is and was wrong on so many levels but endured as an acceptable condition up to a point because it seemed to be isolated in states that embraced it. So since it was legal, acceptable and fruitful--who could challenge such an “it is what it is” conundrum? The inhumanity of it was its eventual downfall and it took a Civil War to sort it out.</p>
<p>ENRON’s senior management, in partnership with Anderson Consulting, were cooking the books and were turned in by an internal whistleblower—who could have gone looked the other way as others clearly did to maintain the status quo. And smoking has endured many challenges because a person’s right to smoke “is what it is”, but not if it endangers the health of non-smokers—hence smoking bans are finally gaining ground.</p>
<p>All I’m saying is just because a thing or condition(it) is what it is doesn’t necessarily give it a pass as acceptable by all who are affected by it. Nor should it continue in perpetuity simply because it is what it is. For some dumb reason I tend to side with the Davids against the Goliaths—as some conditions appear to be. I did go off track, and off subject—but that is the tangent I followed when the phrase was presented. Again, no personal implications were intended and I apologize for offending you.</p> Someone else may think that t…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-13:502551:Comment:11959892011-05-13T22:41:11.899ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
<p>Someone else may think that the way i run my company is not right but that is the way i run it. It's my choice as long as i don't break the law . I respect the right of anyone else to run their business. If someone disagrees with how i run my business they can challenge it and i will tell them to either buy my business, run it the way they want to or leave me the hell alone. It's my railroad. I dont' have a vote on how anyone else runs their business and they don't have a vote on how i…</p>
<p>Someone else may think that the way i run my company is not right but that is the way i run it. It's my choice as long as i don't break the law . I respect the right of anyone else to run their business. If someone disagrees with how i run my business they can challenge it and i will tell them to either buy my business, run it the way they want to or leave me the hell alone. It's my railroad. I dont' have a vote on how anyone else runs their business and they don't have a vote on how i run mine. Unless i own stock or am in a management or policy making position with theirs or they with mine.</p>
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<p>Let"s don't equate illegal and fraudulent criminal activity with company policy not to hire a convicted criminal unless that policy is illegal or fraudulent. I am not going to tell someone they are doing something illegal when they aren't.</p>
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<p>Slavery had nothing to do with the actions of African American people. Commission of a felony required illegal acts on the part of a person who in most cases knew that what they were doing was against the law and made a choice to break the law. So let's not confuse oppression of a whole race of people with a group of people who made a choice in most cases to do something that either hurt or damaged someone else along with themselves.</p>
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<p>I do think that there should be recourse for people who have done the crime and done the time to have a judicial review of their individual situation with the courts having the ability to expunge a record for a myrid of reasons. But let's not forget that if they had follwed the rules in the first place they would not be in that situation. There is always a choice unless one is insane or incapacitated mentally or emotionlly to an extreme degree. </p>
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<p>I think everybody in New York should be able to smoke anyplace they please but at this point it is what it is and it didn't used to be. I don't like it when anybody trys to control anybody else's behavior unless of course they are breaking the law then i want that behavior controlled.</p>
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<p>Cop out? No just acceptance of the rights of others to run their business they way they think is best whether i like it or not.</p> Isn't accepting some things t…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-13:502551:Comment:11965272011-05-13T17:34:33.593ZValentino Martinezhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ValentinoMartinez
<p>Isn't accepting some things that are not "right" because "they are what they are" a form of cop out?</p>
<p>Sandra, you ask: "Some things are just not "right" but what can you do if it is what it is?" The answer can be: </p>
<p>You can sit idly by...</p>
<p>You can ignore it...</p>
<p>You can disagree with it...</p>
<p>You challenge it...</p>
<p>You can vote against it...</p>
<p>You can certainly not support an is what it is if it's not "right".</p>
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<p>Smoking in NY was an "it is…</p>
<p>Isn't accepting some things that are not "right" because "they are what they are" a form of cop out?</p>
<p>Sandra, you ask: "Some things are just not "right" but what can you do if it is what it is?" The answer can be: </p>
<p>You can sit idly by...</p>
<p>You can ignore it...</p>
<p>You can disagree with it...</p>
<p>You challenge it...</p>
<p>You can vote against it...</p>
<p>You can certainly not support an is what it is if it's not "right".</p>
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<p>Smoking in NY was an "it is what it is" situation until it wasn't. Now you cannot smoke in enclosed workplaces, restaurants, bars or on construction sites in NY--who would have thought?</p>
<p>ENRON was an "it is what it is" until a whistleblower blew them down.</p>
<p>Slavery was an "it is what it is" until it was challenged, voted against and brought down because it wasn't right.</p>
<p>So "it is what it is" will reign as long as it has broad good value...</p> It is what it is, I agree wit…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-13:502551:Comment:11962022011-05-13T01:42:15.808ZC. B. Stalling!!https://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ChrisStallings
<p>It is what it is, I agree with Sandra</p>
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<p>It is what it is, I agree with Sandra</p>
<p> </p> Thanks, Gordon--
I noticed yo…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-12:502551:Comment:11961982011-05-12T23:20:49.463ZValentino Martinezhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ValentinoMartinez
<p>Thanks, Gordon--</p>
<p>I noticed your concern for safety, fairness and legal liabilities relative to workplace issues in this and other blog posts. Employer and employee relations continue to be complex with indications that they have broader societal ramifications than first thought.</p>
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<p>Thanks, Gordon--</p>
<p>I noticed your concern for safety, fairness and legal liabilities relative to workplace issues in this and other blog posts. Employer and employee relations continue to be complex with indications that they have broader societal ramifications than first thought.</p>
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