Comments - Why Recruiters Get a Bad Rap (a cautionery tale) - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T02:10:59Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=502551%3ABlogPost%3A1189239&xn_auth=noJudi -
it seems like you tryi…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-04:502551:Comment:11899862011-05-04T21:52:42.164ZN.Khanhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/NumairKhan
Judi -<br />
it seems like you trying to say that recruitment firms are not doing an appropriate job ? if i m not mistaken.<br />
As far as my perception, because of some bogus or immature firms this recruitment cycle is getting tough for a bundle of candidates
Judi -<br />
it seems like you trying to say that recruitment firms are not doing an appropriate job ? if i m not mistaken.<br />
As far as my perception, because of some bogus or immature firms this recruitment cycle is getting tough for a bundle of candidates Brian -
I hear ya. I'm SO g…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-04:502551:Comment:11899852011-05-04T21:12:44.026ZJudi Wunderlichhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JudiWunderlich
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<p>I hear ya. I'm SO glad that I now am a partner in a staffing firm where I can control what we do and how we do it. We've put the relationship back into staffing. It's a cliche, but it's not about the quantity, it's the quality.</p>
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<p>I hear ya. I'm SO glad that I now am a partner in a staffing firm where I can control what we do and how we do it. We've put the relationship back into staffing. It's a cliche, but it's not about the quantity, it's the quality.</p>
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you are so right but…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-04:502551:Comment:11901802011-05-04T21:06:28.358ZN.Khanhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/NumairKhan
<p>Paul.. </p>
<p>you are so right but because of that recuiters this industry of recruiting is going on the dark age</p>
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<p>you are so right but because of that recuiters this industry of recruiting is going on the dark age</p> Edward: I only wish that were…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-04:502551:Comment:11902102011-05-04T14:39:30.298ZPaul S. Gumbinnerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulSGumbinner
Edward: I only wish that were true. There are plenty of client companies that don't care about quality. They want bodies and don't care how they get them. Unfortunately, there are all too many recruiters like that.
Edward: I only wish that were true. There are plenty of client companies that don't care about quality. They want bodies and don't care how they get them. Unfortunately, there are all too many recruiters like that. That story sounds like a typi…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-04:502551:Comment:11901072011-05-04T14:36:29.824ZEdward Caliguirihttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/EdwardCaliguiri
That story sounds like a typical office support environment of 25 years ago. That type of firm is not my competition or any other successful recruiter's compeetition. Once in a while they may make a lucky placement just by sheer numbers but they won't be able to produce the hard to find candidates that provide real recruiters with a good living. I actually think that recruiters like the one you described make professionals look good. All it takes is a real conversation with a qualified…
That story sounds like a typical office support environment of 25 years ago. That type of firm is not my competition or any other successful recruiter's compeetition. Once in a while they may make a lucky placement just by sheer numbers but they won't be able to produce the hard to find candidates that provide real recruiters with a good living. I actually think that recruiters like the one you described make professionals look good. All it takes is a real conversation with a qualified candidate and they know whether we are the real deal or just fishing and hoping. Judi- Thanks for sharing...…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-03:502551:Comment:11895402011-05-03T20:30:51.098ZBrian K. Johnstonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/BrianKJohnston
Judi- Thanks for sharing... That was tough to read, because there was ZERO service or courtesy involved in the recruiting firm's process. This is exactly why I got out of CORP America and started my own firm... More $, More time, More reach, More impact, More freedom... Thanks for sharing....
Judi- Thanks for sharing... That was tough to read, because there was ZERO service or courtesy involved in the recruiting firm's process. This is exactly why I got out of CORP America and started my own firm... More $, More time, More reach, More impact, More freedom... Thanks for sharing.... I agree that this is agency s…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-03:502551:Comment:11892932011-05-03T19:23:31.389ZTom Dimmickhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TomDimmick
I agree that this is agency staffing at its finest. Judi, you might tell your friend to do a little research. One of the best methods is to look the firm up in Kennedy's big red book. At least the candidate can get his/her expectations lined up ahead of time.
I agree that this is agency staffing at its finest. Judi, you might tell your friend to do a little research. One of the best methods is to look the firm up in Kennedy's big red book. At least the candidate can get his/her expectations lined up ahead of time. Judi - You are right. Truth…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-03:502551:Comment:11895322011-05-03T19:04:33.323ZPaul S. Gumbinnerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulSGumbinner
Judi - You are right. Truth is, most candidates don't want to get involved. They merely want to get a job and don't care how they get it, where it comes from or who gets it for them. They certainly don't want us to interfere with the relationship just in case the recruiter comes up with something that may be right. Pitty.
Judi - You are right. Truth is, most candidates don't want to get involved. They merely want to get a job and don't care how they get it, where it comes from or who gets it for them. They certainly don't want us to interfere with the relationship just in case the recruiter comes up with something that may be right. Pitty. Hi Jim-
I hear what you're…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-03:502551:Comment:11892902011-05-03T18:59:00.770ZJudi Wunderlichhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JudiWunderlich
<p>Hi Jim-</p>
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<p>I hear what you're saying and points taken.</p>
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<p>I don't believe it's my place to "report" the actions of the recruiter, and thus I did not name him (he was not young) or the staffing firm (a 35 year old business with one location in the Chicago area). And my friend has no time or interest in talking to this firm's management to let them know he was dissatisfied. He does understand how valuable a good recruiter relationship can be but since his…</p>
<p>Hi Jim-</p>
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<p>I hear what you're saying and points taken.</p>
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<p>I don't believe it's my place to "report" the actions of the recruiter, and thus I did not name him (he was not young) or the staffing firm (a 35 year old business with one location in the Chicago area). And my friend has no time or interest in talking to this firm's management to let them know he was dissatisfied. He does understand how valuable a good recruiter relationship can be but since his unemployment began, he has had only 1 good recruiter interaction, and 3 bad ones. Judging by what I hear from job seekers who come to my staffing firm and talk about their experiences, I unfortunately don't think this is unusual.</p>
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<p>Rather, I posted this so new recruiters, and those who manage recruiters (like me), can step back and see how a candidate-recruiter interaction can go bad, so they be sure not to repeat the same mistakes.</p>
<p> </p> I have always felt that recru…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2011-05-03:502551:Comment:11893912011-05-03T18:58:13.783ZPaul S. Gumbinnerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PaulSGumbinner
<p>I have always felt that recruiters should be held to a higher standard, both by candidates and by their corporate clients. I am a single business recruiter - advertising - for both client companies and ad agencies. I am always shocked by the bad behavior of some of my competitors. You all know the stories - resumes being sent out without candidate permission, resumes being sent without the recruiter first interviewing the candidate, people making high salaries being sent on lower paid…</p>
<p>I have always felt that recruiters should be held to a higher standard, both by candidates and by their corporate clients. I am a single business recruiter - advertising - for both client companies and ad agencies. I am always shocked by the bad behavior of some of my competitors. You all know the stories - resumes being sent out without candidate permission, resumes being sent without the recruiter first interviewing the candidate, people making high salaries being sent on lower paid jobs. And of course, those recruiters who take people out of places as fast as they put them in.</p>
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<p>What bothers me is that this is allowed by companies. One of my favorite stories is about the account person who went to see a recruiter. The same recruiter called the account person's boss that afternoon and said, "I know that one of your supervisors is looking, may I have the assignment to replace him". He got the assignment.</p>
<p>One of the best compliments I got was from a corporate HR person who called me to ask to take me to lunch. At the lunch he told me I was his number two ranking recruiter in terms of number of placements. I replied that I was not sure I liked being number two. His reply, "No, that is OK. I did a regression analysis and your candidates never leave here. I am firing the number one because his candidate tenure is under eighteen months. It either means he is placing the wrong people here or or he is recruiting them out. In either case, I am firing him. You are my new number one and that is why I am buying you lunch.</p>
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<p>More clients should do this kind of analysis. it would help us all.</p>
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