Comments - How Do You Advise Friends That Are Out of Work? - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T12:38:30Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=502551%3ABlogPost%3A1540905&xn_auth=noBill/James/Randall, Thank you…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-04-09:502551:Comment:15411372012-04-09T16:34:16.974ZDave Thomashttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DaveThomas
<p>Bill/James/Randall,<br/> Thank you for reading and posting comments. You all brought up good points, especially James. Sending out a "mass" resume is always a no-no, yet many people do it to skimp on time. Each resume should be crafted towards the company one is applying to. I at times found myself guilty of this and then the light in my head came on as to why I was getting little if any response.</p>
<p>Bill/James/Randall,<br/> Thank you for reading and posting comments. You all brought up good points, especially James. Sending out a "mass" resume is always a no-no, yet many people do it to skimp on time. Each resume should be crafted towards the company one is applying to. I at times found myself guilty of this and then the light in my head came on as to why I was getting little if any response.</p> Dave,
This is a challenging s…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-04-09:502551:Comment:15411352012-04-09T16:30:00.417ZRandall Scasnyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/RandallScasny
<p>Dave,</p>
<p>This is a challenging subject any way you look at it. Since there is a personal relationship involved, I've found that one needs to be more sensitive and subtle in addressing it than in a paid, customer-service provider relationship.<br></br><br></br>Having said the above, let me try to be sensitive to your sincere posting: your comments are practical, logical, rational, etc., but they are not taking into account how a job seeker's psychology influences (and deteriorates his attitude)…</p>
<p>Dave,</p>
<p>This is a challenging subject any way you look at it. Since there is a personal relationship involved, I've found that one needs to be more sensitive and subtle in addressing it than in a paid, customer-service provider relationship.<br/><br/>Having said the above, let me try to be sensitive to your sincere posting: your comments are practical, logical, rational, etc., but they are not taking into account how a job seeker's psychology influences (and deteriorates his attitude) as a job search campaign fails to reap positive results. I'm not a recruiter per se, but have for the past ten years operated a job search assistance service. What you describe in your posting is very typical of long-term job seekers (6 months or more). When they first start a search campaign, they are generally optimistic; but as time goes on, without a tangible result, they think about starting a business, going back to school, change careers; they finally become indecisive, yada, yada, yada. The critical point is when they begin isolating themselves to one degree or another and then trade their career goals with treading-water strategies, such as, applying for an unemployment extension. <br/><br/>Job seeking is really a system of causality. One takes actions (many little actions) that "should" reap some kind of result. So, the problem is not that the person has given up but that he has not obtained results from the actions he has taken. So, why would an experienced person who had no real problem in the past now have problems landing a job? That question must be answered to get him back on track again.<br/><br/>Just saying it's a bad job market is not good enough for these types of job seekers. One most give them concrete solutions to make them see a path to moving forward. Here's how:<br/><br/>I spent about 3 years studying and tracking job seeker behavior when I began my business a decade ago. After studying job seeker behavior for 3 years, I saw that all job campaigns go through three phases described by a job-seeking problem:<br/><br/>Phase 1 (skills marketing): Apply to jobs, post resumes online but never get a recruiter/employer call back<br/><br/>Phase 2 (transitional): Get employer recruiter call backs but never offered onsite interviews<br/><br/>Phase 3 (final): Get onsite interviews but never get a job offer<br/><br/>With a 5 minute interview, I can place a job seeker in a phase. Then, I suggest concrete actions to take to move into the next phase. I have three articles on my website that indicate what actions to take given a job seeking problem: go here: <a href="http://fs5consulting.com" target="_blank">http://fs5consulting.com</a><br/><br/>Using this system, I have frequently taken a job seeker who's been unemployed for 1 to 2 years and got their campaigns functioning again within 6 weeks.<br/><br/>Best of luck to your friend.<br/><br/>Randall Scasny<br/>FS5 Consulting<br/><a href="http://fs5consulting.com" target="_blank">http://fs5consulting.com</a></p>
<p>847-668-2576</p> Excellent points. The one pro…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-04-09:502551:Comment:15411282012-04-09T15:40:02.141ZJames F. Jeterhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/JamesFJeter
<p>Excellent points. The one problem I see time and time again with my friends that ask for help is, they use the exact same resume for all applications. They do not tailor their resume for the specific job they are trying to get. Why? Most of them say it is too much work...at that point, they are on their own!</p>
<p>Excellent points. The one problem I see time and time again with my friends that ask for help is, they use the exact same resume for all applications. They do not tailor their resume for the specific job they are trying to get. Why? Most of them say it is too much work...at that point, they are on their own!</p> I'll reply to the topic quest…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2012-04-06:502551:Comment:15406362012-04-06T18:00:04.926ZBill Schultzhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/BillSchultz
<p>I'll reply to the topic question:</p>
<p>I've lost a couple of friends by getting too involved in managing their job search. </p>
<p>Now, I dole out advice carefully. In other words I respond to questions but don't offer.</p>
<p>People come around at their own pace.</p>
<p>What I would add to your good advice is Get out there! Take a temp job or something. Networking happens in the subway, the elevator, etc. </p>
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<p>I'll reply to the topic question:</p>
<p>I've lost a couple of friends by getting too involved in managing their job search. </p>
<p>Now, I dole out advice carefully. In other words I respond to questions but don't offer.</p>
<p>People come around at their own pace.</p>
<p>What I would add to your good advice is Get out there! Take a temp job or something. Networking happens in the subway, the elevator, etc. </p>
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