Comments - It's The Headhunter Fee, Stupid! - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T12:40:09Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=502551%3ABlogPost%3A1647169&xn_auth=noKen,
I read this post three t…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-03-01:502551:Comment:17925382014-03-01T19:40:41.747ZPAUL FORELhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/PAULFOREL
<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I read this post three times and hardly any of what you wrote addressed the 'headhunter fee' as you call it.</p>
<p>And by the way, Ken, it is more properly referred to as a 'Recruitment Fee', not a 'headhunter fee'. You would preserve the professionalism of our industry as executive search consultants if you would please make the distinction.</p>
<p>Anyway, you spent more time referring to the 'hidden talent pool' as I think it is more commonly known and seemed to leave the…</p>
<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I read this post three times and hardly any of what you wrote addressed the 'headhunter fee' as you call it.</p>
<p>And by the way, Ken, it is more properly referred to as a 'Recruitment Fee', not a 'headhunter fee'. You would preserve the professionalism of our industry as executive search consultants if you would please make the distinction.</p>
<p>Anyway, you spent more time referring to the 'hidden talent pool' as I think it is more commonly known and seemed to leave the conversation about recruitment fees a loose end.</p>
<p>Oh, this is what you said:</p>
<p>"...offer a variety of recruitment services that can be tailored as a solution to the unique needs and budget of your clients..."</p>
<p>This sounds pretty jazzy, to what specifically do you suggest as relevant bells and whistles other than providing candidates who are qualified and are subsequently hired by our clients?</p> Ken, outstanding article! Aft…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-21:502551:Comment:16537562013-01-21T20:44:02.436ZKen Schmitthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/KenSchmitt
<p>Ken, outstanding article! After 15 years in the industry, it has been my experience that the only reason a client balks at our fees, is because we haven't done an effective job of presenting our value. It is incumbent upon us as headhunters and owners of search firms to demonstrate how we will save out clients money in the short and long term by finding what I call the "best talent", rather than settling for the "available talent". Our new Perpetual Recruiting model does exactly this. Thanks…</p>
<p>Ken, outstanding article! After 15 years in the industry, it has been my experience that the only reason a client balks at our fees, is because we haven't done an effective job of presenting our value. It is incumbent upon us as headhunters and owners of search firms to demonstrate how we will save out clients money in the short and long term by finding what I call the "best talent", rather than settling for the "available talent". Our new Perpetual Recruiting model does exactly this. Thanks so much!</p>
<p>Ken Schmitt</p>
<p>President/Founder TurningPoint Executive Search</p>
<p><a href="http://www.turningpointsearch.net" target="_blank">www.turningpointsearch.net</a></p> Harry. I love your metaphors…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-21:502551:Comment:16529972013-01-21T08:17:39.015ZDyll Davieshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DyllDavies
<p>Harry. I love your metaphors but I am not sure what point you are making. If it is that not all head-hunters are good then I would agree. (I am by the way.) But the point of the article was surely pointing up the difference between using a (good) head-hunter and just relying on job boards, social media and advertising to find your 'talent'? To stretch your metaphor to breaking point: what can you tell about the ocean if you don't know it exists?</p>
<p>Harry. I love your metaphors but I am not sure what point you are making. If it is that not all head-hunters are good then I would agree. (I am by the way.) But the point of the article was surely pointing up the difference between using a (good) head-hunter and just relying on job boards, social media and advertising to find your 'talent'? To stretch your metaphor to breaking point: what can you tell about the ocean if you don't know it exists?</p> Excellent Article!!tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-21:502551:Comment:16530062013-01-21T01:43:29.481ZSean Rigsbyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SeanRigsby674
<p>Excellent Article!!</p>
<p>Excellent Article!!</p> Sorry,... this is a bunch of…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-19:502551:Comment:16524412013-01-19T18:28:16.429ZHarryhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Harry401
<p>Sorry,... this is a bunch of malarkey. Have you seen what it looks like from the other side,... at most 2 'headhunters' have taken the time to get to know me,... and what 'talent' I can bring to the table. However, 99% of the calls from 'head hunters' are broker type calls.</p>
<p>In reading the many comments in agreement -- its clear -- there is group think going on,... I am not a headhunter,... but in order to comment on this 'single minded posting' I had to comment.</p>
<p>What can one…</p>
<p>Sorry,... this is a bunch of malarkey. Have you seen what it looks like from the other side,... at most 2 'headhunters' have taken the time to get to know me,... and what 'talent' I can bring to the table. However, 99% of the calls from 'head hunters' are broker type calls.</p>
<p>In reading the many comments in agreement -- its clear -- there is group think going on,... I am not a headhunter,... but in order to comment on this 'single minded posting' I had to comment.</p>
<p>What can one tell about the ocean to a frog born and living in a well? </p> Ka-Ching!tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-18:502551:Comment:16520042013-01-18T19:59:18.688ZBrian K. Johnstonhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/BrianKJohnston
<p>Ka-Ching!</p>
<p>Ka-Ching!</p> Nice, all well put! tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-18:502551:Comment:16519052013-01-18T19:11:13.792ZMikehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Mike198
<p>Nice, all well put! </p>
<p>Nice, all well put! </p> Excellent article ken. I like…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-18:502551:Comment:16517432013-01-18T15:43:36.894ZSandra McCartthttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SandraMcCartt
Excellent article ken. I like your style.
Excellent article ken. I like your style. Good post Ken. The problem is…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-18:502551:Comment:16511952013-01-18T09:15:17.142ZDyll Davieshttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/DyllDavies
<p>Good post Ken. The problem is that many clients don't even understand the difference between passive and active search and therefore bracket "all recruiters" together. As you say head-hunting is a skill and something that takes many years to perfect in terms of network and relationship building: something simply not possible for any client or any job board or social networking site to match. But "recruiters" often have such a poor reputation generally that clients have an inbuilt…</p>
<p>Good post Ken. The problem is that many clients don't even understand the difference between passive and active search and therefore bracket "all recruiters" together. As you say head-hunting is a skill and something that takes many years to perfect in terms of network and relationship building: something simply not possible for any client or any job board or social networking site to match. But "recruiters" often have such a poor reputation generally that clients have an inbuilt resistance to recognising these simple facts.</p>
<p>Having said that I like turn this round and say clients get the recruiters they deserve. If you think poorly of recruiters, hell you know you'll probably end up working with poor recruiters! Screw them to the ground on fees, engage multiple recruiters on the same contingent role/s and the monkeys scrabbling on the floor for your business will probably eat the peanuts but not do too much else. Think strategically and work with a single, well-researched and qualified specialist recruiter - as part of a multifaceted general approach to recruitment -and hey presto, you start to find your headcount is being filled with top talent at a reasonable price. QED!</p> Very well written ! Thanks fo…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-01-18:502551:Comment:16513472013-01-18T04:57:27.457ZNARESH CHITTURIhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/NARESHCHITTURI
<p>Very well written ! Thanks for sharing your experience with us.</p>
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<p>Very well written ! Thanks for sharing your experience with us.</p>
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