Comments - Why I Did NOT Negotiate My Salary - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-28T13:59:39Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=502551%3ABlogPost%3A1726658&xn_auth=noThanks Gina - and that's exac…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-10-21:502551:Comment:17606022013-10-21T19:48:58.399ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p>Thanks Gina - and that's exactly why we need to talk about it. I have had this conversation and even shared this posts with many hiring managers and candidates. This is how I work. Period. If other recruiters still want to play the same tired old gotcha game, let them.</p>
<p>Thanks Gina - and that's exactly why we need to talk about it. I have had this conversation and even shared this posts with many hiring managers and candidates. This is how I work. Period. If other recruiters still want to play the same tired old gotcha game, let them.</p> Hi Amy, enjoyed reading your…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-10-21:502551:Comment:17603712013-10-21T18:08:56.607ZGina Mishrahttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/GinaMishra
Hi Amy, enjoyed reading your article and the comments too..Even I hate playing "games" when it comes to negotiations but I see many recruiters doing it. :(
Hi Amy, enjoyed reading your article and the comments too..Even I hate playing "games" when it comes to negotiations but I see many recruiters doing it. :( I get it Daren. I think we're…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-08-28:502551:Comment:17495352013-08-28T18:54:40.547ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p>I get it Daren. I think we're all jaded re: different things and in different ways. :) I've only been here since February, so I'm sure I have a lot to learn about Microsoft. What I do know (and my point on the show) is I can only control myself and how I choose to work this process. I won't lie, I won't lowball. Period. If other recruiters do, or other companies encourage it, so be it. It's not my reality (thank goodness).</p>
<p>I get it Daren. I think we're all jaded re: different things and in different ways. :) I've only been here since February, so I'm sure I have a lot to learn about Microsoft. What I do know (and my point on the show) is I can only control myself and how I choose to work this process. I won't lie, I won't lowball. Period. If other recruiters do, or other companies encourage it, so be it. It's not my reality (thank goodness).</p> Amy....My view is very jaded.…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-08-28:502551:Comment:17493842013-08-28T18:50:36.851ZDaren J. Mongellohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Daren751
<p>Amy....<br></br>My view is very jaded. I know of too many people not being paid (including me) for services rendered. <br></br>So we are naturally suspect based on experience. As much as I want to believe everyone works to do what's right, many do not. <br></br><br></br>Why do you think companies like Walmart fight to keep unions away?<br></br>Why some states create "right to work" laws? <br></br>Employment agreements that call for meditation over lawsuits? <br></br><br></br>These are not the actions of companies wanting…</p>
<p>Amy....<br/>My view is very jaded. I know of too many people not being paid (including me) for services rendered. <br/>So we are naturally suspect based on experience. As much as I want to believe everyone works to do what's right, many do not. <br/><br/>Why do you think companies like Walmart fight to keep unions away?<br/>Why some states create "right to work" laws? <br/>Employment agreements that call for meditation over lawsuits? <br/><br/>These are not the actions of companies wanting to "do the right thing".<br/><br/>And did they not tell you the Microsoft 'permatemp' issues that they created for themselves by NOT doing the right thing? I'm sure it was covered during orientation over at Bill and Melinda's, right? ;) <br/><br/></p>
<p></p> Thanks Daren. :)
Maybe this i…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-08-28:502551:Comment:17495342013-08-28T18:22:46.241ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p>Thanks Daren. :)</p>
<p>Maybe this is the "paradigm shift" recruiting really needs? Why is it so hard to just be honest? I've been recruiting this way for years (long before joining my current company) and it's worked pretty well so far. I'm not going to start trying to manipulate people / the process now. As far as negotiations go - I'm happy to negotiate all the way through the process. Once we have a final / formal offer, we should already know what a winning number is.</p>
<p>Thanks Daren. :)</p>
<p>Maybe this is the "paradigm shift" recruiting really needs? Why is it so hard to just be honest? I've been recruiting this way for years (long before joining my current company) and it's worked pretty well so far. I'm not going to start trying to manipulate people / the process now. As far as negotiations go - I'm happy to negotiate all the way through the process. Once we have a final / formal offer, we should already know what a winning number is.</p> Amy.....I think you're great…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-08-28:502551:Comment:17494502013-08-28T16:42:03.525ZDaren J. Mongellohttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/Daren751
<p>Amy.....I think you're great but not everyone sees the world through "Amy" eyes.<br></br>Awww....and they're so purty. <br></br><br></br>Folks coming from other cultures treat the act of negotiating (Bargaining or haggling) as part of the process.<br></br>There's also dickering.....which is the petty/negative version. We dont like dickerers <br></br><br></br>I think it's helpful when you know who your candidate is, and where they come from.<br></br>"Negotiating" is part personality. Some candidates will accept…</p>
<p>Amy.....I think you're great but not everyone sees the world through "Amy" eyes.<br/>Awww....and they're so purty. <br/><br/>Folks coming from other cultures treat the act of negotiating (Bargaining or haggling) as part of the process.<br/>There's also dickering.....which is the petty/negative version. We dont like dickerers <br/><br/>I think it's helpful when you know who your candidate is, and where they come from.<br/>"Negotiating" is part personality. Some candidates will accept everything at face value. Others won't. <br/>Personalities will also determine if there's any negotiating and its outcome.<br/><br/>Add that candidates are not as educated or trust the process like you do. <br/><br/>Here's the other thing: your offer was a higher (much higher?) than what you wanted, so the need to negotiate was obviated. <br/><br/>Love the hair. :)</p> Thank you Chris! Your dad is…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-08-27:502551:Comment:17492802013-08-27T20:12:41.944ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p>Thank you Chris! Your dad is a smart man :) I just didn't feel the need to negotiate for negotiation's sake... the offer was beyond what I hoped, and certainly higher than the private number I had in my head... why not jump all over a good (no, GREAT) thing and just be happy about it?</p>
<p>Thank you Chris! Your dad is a smart man :) I just didn't feel the need to negotiate for negotiation's sake... the offer was beyond what I hoped, and certainly higher than the private number I had in my head... why not jump all over a good (no, GREAT) thing and just be happy about it?</p> Amy, I sincerely appreciate t…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-08-27:502551:Comment:17492682013-08-27T19:20:30.933ZChris Fleekhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/ChrisFleek
<p>Amy, I sincerely appreciate this post. My father used to say, "try to avoid coming through the door swinging." You have proven it's possible.</p>
<p>Amy, I sincerely appreciate this post. My father used to say, "try to avoid coming through the door swinging." You have proven it's possible.</p> Exactly Barb - most people on…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-26:502551:Comment:17326572013-07-26T18:42:50.328ZAmy Ala Millerhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/AmyAla
<p>Exactly Barb - most people on both sides just plain old suck at negotiating, making an already uncomfortable situation that much worse. Thanks for commenting!</p>
<p>Exactly Barb - most people on both sides just plain old suck at negotiating, making an already uncomfortable situation that much worse. Thanks for commenting!</p> This is an important post. I…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2013-07-26:502551:Comment:17324722013-07-26T18:13:56.451ZBarbara Goldmanhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/BarbaraGoldman
<p>This is an important post. I always talk bottom line. I don't want anyone to start playing games. Unless the player is a pro, the gamesmanship looks bad. Most of it looks very bad. Be honest, be upfront from the beginning. Thanks.</p>
<p>This is an important post. I always talk bottom line. I don't want anyone to start playing games. Unless the player is a pro, the gamesmanship looks bad. Most of it looks very bad. Be honest, be upfront from the beginning. Thanks.</p>