Comments - The Mastery of Recruiting? - RecruitingBlogs2024-03-29T09:23:46Zhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=502551%3ABlogPost%3A1779240&xn_auth=noYou are very kind, Kelly.
Ke…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-09:502551:Comment:17808412014-01-09T19:21:42.835ZKeith D. Halperinhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/KeithDHalperin
<p>You are very kind, Kelly.</p>
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<p>Keith</p>
<p>You are very kind, Kelly.</p>
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<p>Keith</p> Really enjoyed this article,…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-09:502551:Comment:17805942014-01-09T05:08:25.983ZKelly Blokdijkhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/KellyBlokdijk
<p>Really enjoyed this article, Keith and the comments too. Whether writing your own fresh content or adding comments to others' posts, you always bring a special flair to the conversation. </p>
<p>Really enjoyed this article, Keith and the comments too. Whether writing your own fresh content or adding comments to others' posts, you always bring a special flair to the conversation. </p> @ Glenn: Thank you. It's hard…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-08:502551:Comment:17808012014-01-08T23:20:54.656ZKeith D. Halperinhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/KeithDHalperin
<p>@ Glenn: Thank you. It's hard for me to come up with new material- it's much easier to piggyback off others. Perhaps I'm the "Master of Lazy Writing"....</p>
<p>As far as obsessiveness being required for "really good" at what someone does, I'm interested in hearing more about what that means, if you care to share. I distinguish between hard work /strong work ethic and obsessiveness- with the fist being good and the second being bad. An example; If someone decided to put in the time to study…</p>
<p>@ Glenn: Thank you. It's hard for me to come up with new material- it's much easier to piggyback off others. Perhaps I'm the "Master of Lazy Writing"....</p>
<p>As far as obsessiveness being required for "really good" at what someone does, I'm interested in hearing more about what that means, if you care to share. I distinguish between hard work /strong work ethic and obsessiveness- with the fist being good and the second being bad. An example; If someone decided to put in the time to study improved recruiting techniques instead of binge-watching "House of Cards" from Netflix, I'd regard that as a strong work ethic and "good". If someone was answering recruiting calls during her daughter's poetry slam, I'd regard that as obsessive and "bad". I define obsessive as: "activity performed to the level of negatively impacting other important aspects of life."</p>
<p>"If I did not have an obsessive personality, I certainly would not be where I am today." I sometimes think some areas DO require an obsessive personality to achieve world-class mastery. Maybe to become the very best pro-football player, you need to accept that you may destroy your body and suffer traumatic brain injury which may kill you at an early age. Maybe to be a great coder you need to sit and program 16 hours /day and have no relationships. Also, what if you have the drive, you put in the time, and YOU JUST AREN'T (and will never be)THAT GOOD? I can personally speak to that: When I was a kid back in the Bronze Age, I took gymnastics a number of years as past of the Summer Youth Program in my town. The teacher/coach: said to me: "I've hardly ever seen someone work as hard as you, Keith, but you just aren't built for this." She was right.... Our talents, drives, passions are all over the place, some have 'em all, some one or two, and some have none. I'm afraid I don't believe that inside each of us there is a potential superstar at SOMETHING, and we just have to find out what that is and have the will to put in the time and hard work to achieve it.</p>
<p>I haven't read those books you mentioned, but they sound interesting. I liked Malcolm Gladwell's earlier book <em>Outliers</em> where he discussed a lot of success is determined by luck: better athletes tend to be the oldest (most physically mature) ones in their group, so they do better and get the encouragement that helps them work more at it, which helps them get even better, and so on....</p>
<p>@ Bob: Thank you . Go then and meditate on the sound of one hand placing....</p>
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<p>-kh</p> Thank you for the post Sensei…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-08:502551:Comment:17807572014-01-08T21:26:50.247ZBob Russellhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/BobRussell
<p>Thank you for the post Sensei Keith.</p>
<p>Thank you for the post Sensei Keith.</p> Nice to see you write an arti…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-08:502551:Comment:17807462014-01-08T19:34:38.059ZGlen Catheyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/GlenCathey
<p>Nice to see you write an article rather than comment. I found your piece interesting if not unsurprising. I'll have to watch the documentary.</p>
<p>I've always argued that in order to become *really* good at what you do, you have to have some degree of an obsessive personality. While being labeled "obsessive" has negative connotations, anyone who has a strong work ethic, who's driven to excel, etc. has an obsessive personality to a lesser or greater extent. Look at any top athlete,…</p>
<p>Nice to see you write an article rather than comment. I found your piece interesting if not unsurprising. I'll have to watch the documentary.</p>
<p>I've always argued that in order to become *really* good at what you do, you have to have some degree of an obsessive personality. While being labeled "obsessive" has negative connotations, anyone who has a strong work ethic, who's driven to excel, etc. has an obsessive personality to a lesser or greater extent. Look at any top athlete, musician, scientist, recruiter, etc., and tell me they weren't obsessed with taking their craft as far as it could go.</p>
<p>If I did not have an obsessive personality, I certainly would not be where I am today. The trick for anyone who does have a degree of obsessiveness is keeping it in check to healthy levels so that it does not have any negative effects on other people or areas of your life, yet "letting it run" enough to gain the benefits of mastery. </p>
<p>The points about repetition in pursuit of increased proficiency mirrors the concepts of deliberate practice and the findings of Talent is Overrated and The Talent Code - both very good books.</p> Thanks, Tim, got it one. As I…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-08:502551:Comment:17805582014-01-08T18:41:43.703ZKeith D. Halperinhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/KeithDHalperin
<p>Thanks, Tim, got it one. As I frequently point out, recruiting is fundamentally “quickly and affordably putting quality butts in chairs”. While the tools and techniques change, what we do remains essentially the same. However, tis hard to make money selling the “same old, same-old” so we will continue to see slick hucksters with high-level connections ready to sell the latest recruiting snake oil or “magic bullet” to desperate and not-yet insolvent recruiters and their superiors who fail to…</p>
<p>Thanks, Tim, got it one. As I frequently point out, recruiting is fundamentally “quickly and affordably putting quality butts in chairs”. While the tools and techniques change, what we do remains essentially the same. However, tis hard to make money selling the “same old, same-old” so we will continue to see slick hucksters with high-level connections ready to sell the latest recruiting snake oil or “magic bullet” to desperate and not-yet insolvent recruiters and their superiors who fail to recognize that in most cases they are futilely “rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic” of their companies’ ill-conceived, over-blown, grossly-dysfunctional hiring practices. The hucksters make money, the recruiters (heads) show to their bosses they are keeping up with things, and the fact that quite often *nothing gets better is a very minor consequence.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith</p> Keith - awesome post and an e…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-07:502551:Comment:17802202014-01-07T00:32:26.893ZTim Spagnolahttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/TimSpagnola
<p>Keith - awesome post and an even better movie. I loved this documentary and you shared some key points. Recruiters often have a tendency (especially new recruiters) to way over think the process. Or spend way to much time looking for the silver bullet. There is no off switch in recruiting, but if you're good at it and love it, it is no different then any craft as long as you put the time in. No need to re-invent the wheel. </p>
<p>Keith - awesome post and an even better movie. I loved this documentary and you shared some key points. Recruiters often have a tendency (especially new recruiters) to way over think the process. Or spend way to much time looking for the silver bullet. There is no off switch in recruiting, but if you're good at it and love it, it is no different then any craft as long as you put the time in. No need to re-invent the wheel. </p> @ Matt: Thank you.
@ Steven:…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-06:502551:Comment:17802072014-01-06T19:55:04.811ZKeith D. Halperinhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/KeithDHalperin
<p><font size="3">@ Matt: Thank you.</font></p>
<p><font size="3">@ Steven: Thanks, too. This quote SHOULD resonate with us. We should seek to improve ourselves and what we do. At the same time: what happens when we realize (or find out) that we've hit the point of diminishing returns- the point where the curve levels out and no matter how hard we work, how much careful time we put in, how much passion we show, we'll never be a superstar/guru/<i>shokunin</i>? If we go back to an earlier movie-…</font></p>
<p><font size="3">@ Matt: Thank you.</font></p>
<p><font size="3">@ Steven: Thanks, too. This quote SHOULD resonate with us. We should seek to improve ourselves and what we do. At the same time: what happens when we realize (or find out) that we've hit the point of diminishing returns- the point where the curve levels out and no matter how hard we work, how much careful time we put in, how much passion we show, we'll never be a superstar/guru/<i>shokunin</i>? If we go back to an earlier movie- "Amadeus" (</font><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadeus_(film)"><font color="#0000FF" size="3">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadeus_(film)</font></a><font size="3">): what happens when we learn we will never be Mozart, only Salieri?....</font></p>
<p><font size="3">The story is told of Zusha, the great Hasidic master, who lay crying on his deathbed. His students asked him, "Rebbe, why are you so sad? After all the good deeds you have done, you will surely get a great reward in heaven!"</font></p>
<p><font size="3">"I'm afraid!" said Zusha. "Because when I get to heaven, I know God's not going to ask me 'Why weren't you more like Moses?' or 'Why weren't you more like King David?' But I'm afraid that God will ask 'Zusha, why weren't you more like Zusha?' And then what will I say?!"</font></p>
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<p><font size="3">-kh</font></p>
<p></p> "Always try to improve upon y…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-06:502551:Comment:17801222014-01-06T19:03:32.915ZSteven Guinehttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/SteveGuine508
<p><span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">"Always try to improve upon yourself. Always strive to elevate your craft.</span>"</p>
<p>Good article. However, this quote resonates with me.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">"Always try to improve upon yourself. Always strive to elevate your craft.</span>"</p>
<p>Good article. However, this quote resonates with me.</p> Hi Keith:
This is a great pos…tag:recruitingblogs.com,2014-01-06:502551:Comment:17800552014-01-06T16:02:50.783ZMatt Charneyhttps://recruitingblogs.com/profile/MattCharney
<p>Hi Keith:</p>
<p>This is a great post (and have to admit, had wanted to write up this movie for a little while as it's an outstanding doc, but think you captured its essence!). It's one thing to be talented, but as Jiro Dreams of Sushi shows, transforming that talent into repeatable, sustainable and world-class outcomes is something only a handful of people have the discipline, commitment and passion to do - and an important lesson for all of us striving to become better at our craft.…</p>
<p>Hi Keith:</p>
<p>This is a great post (and have to admit, had wanted to write up this movie for a little while as it's an outstanding doc, but think you captured its essence!). It's one thing to be talented, but as Jiro Dreams of Sushi shows, transforming that talent into repeatable, sustainable and world-class outcomes is something only a handful of people have the discipline, commitment and passion to do - and an important lesson for all of us striving to become better at our craft. Although I think you're getting close on writing and community management.</p>
<p>Thanks for a great read.</p>
<p>Matt</p>