Agency and corporate recruiters have always had this love/hate relationship. It’s a sibling rivalry of sorts – in some cases each thinks the other doesn’t know what they’re doing. After 10+ years on the agency side, I have a great deal of admiration and respect for those that do it well. I also have a newfound respect for my corporate brothers and sisters as I enter my 7th month on the dark side. I still maintain that recruiters shouldn't be allowed to go internal until they've cut their teeth as a third party. It's essential training and as @MattCharney said on Twitter yesterday, you learn to "hustle".
After 60 reqs filled in just over 6 months and mixed results with agency recruiters, I must admit I look back on some of my past behavior as a TPR and cringe just a little (ok, a lot). I know none of my beloved RBC friends make these mistakes but perhaps you can forward on to the real culprits…?
Reason #1 – you are too cocky. Hey I love a little swagger, I really do. What drives me nuts though is when your agency arrogance displays itself by looking down on the poor corporate recruiters who “can’t” do what you do because of some perceived lack of skill or ability. That’s not why I gave you the job order… I gave you the job order because my time is better spent working on the other 40 reqs I have open instead of devoting half of my working hours to ONE. It’s not that difficult a concept. We both perform a valuable service to our clients, and the best on both sides will always have a seat at the table. Don't mistake my decision to go in house for weakness.
Reason #2 – you view me as an obstacle between you and the “real" hiring manager. I know you want to talk to the hiring manager, and I want you to. I gave you this job order because I have other things to do. Unfortunately if the hiring manager doesn’t want to talk to you (and sometimes they just don’t) then you and I are going to have to play nice. It is in my best interest for you to fill this job. I will talk to you every day if you want, and be completely transparent. Why on earth would I not give you every last scrap of detail I can to make this a win for both of us?
Reason #3 – you over promise and under deliver. What more can really be said about this? Don’t make promises you can’t keep – period. Or, if you say you’ll have candidates in a week, but don’t – just let me know! I’ve been recruiting long enough to know things don’t always go according to plan. Just be straight with me like I am with you.
Reason #4 – you get the job order, then disappear. I know I am not your only client. I doubt I’m even your best or favorite client. My company has a very strong internal recruiting team, so you may do one or two placements a year with us. I get it - that probably doesn't put us at the top of your priority list. If you’re not willing to put in the effort, why take the job order? If I am not the kind of client you want, then just politely decline… I can handle it.
Reason #5 – you push back against my feedback. If a candidate you’ve submitted is rejected (before or after the interview), I will tell you why. If we have a strong relationship, you can count on me to be brutally honest. I’m not talking about reasonable discussion – I’m happy to listen to your side and would expect you to defend your candidate. When you start demanding to speak to the hiring manager about “why” he/she was rejected, and ignoring me because you don't like what I have to say, then we’re going to have issues (see Reason #2).
Reason #6 – you treat me like the competition. I realize not all corporate recruiters operate this way, but if I give you a job order I am no longer actively recruiting for it. You are. That doesn’t mean we won’t still have the role posted, and we may still receive active candidates applying, but I am not sourcing. Personally, I view you as an external extension of my team. Why compete with my own resources?
Reason #7 – you don’t know me. You’re too busy selling me on your awesomeness to even bother getting to know me or my company. I especially love the split desk agencies. If I somehow end up talking to the recruiter finding the candidates, I find out the Business Development dude told him very little about my company, and what he did learn was wrong. So when I have to set you straight, don’t tell me “that’s changed”. Nothing’s changed, you just didn’t know anything about us in the first place. Hint – don’t assume, ask questions.
Now let me have it. Someone out there is DYING to come back with a list of why agency recruiters hate the corporate side. I can’t wait to see it, because I know you won’t be talking about me. :)
Thanks Taylor I agree! :) that's why at my company internally we all support specific / different business groups. We don't want to compete with each other either lol
Sorry, Web designers are not that hard to find and this statement: Most of them work on their own if they're any good.
is so not true. If you said UI Engineers are hard to find, I'd agree.
Amy,
Sorry to be in on this so late. I am now in a corporate position, but I had 20 years in TPR.
Had a new client who told me that if I could find him a " . . . . . . . . Manager" ASAP then I would be his new best friend. So, I took that on as a challenge, put aside other searches I had been working on and I found him a great individual with a resume to match his job description very well, and within 48 hours! After sending him the resume I couldn't get him to the phone. I made follow up calls, left voicemails, etc. and he would not return my call and the excellent candidate never got to interview for the position. Seems to me that he owed me at least a phone call after I did that for him, but, he did not communicate and never even acknowledged the resume. So, I never worked with him again.
@Bill - for the record it's a UI / UX front end web designer willing to drive to our suburban location among other challenges. Those guys are getting snatched up right and left by bigger companies paying a lot more
@Vaughn - one plus to being internal - if that happens I can camp out in front of the hiring manager's office :)
Wish you had been the internal recruiter for that company, we might have gotten someone hired!
@ Amy- I'm sure there are compelling reasons to work for your company. You being reason 1... Frankly I don't know that area so I shouldn't speak out of turn. John seems to be working in Silicon Valley so really I was speaking more to him and his statement.
Oh Bill... you're too kind. :) You're right though about location
Ref #4
Q: How do you get an agency to finally stop calling you?
A: Give them a job order! /rimshot ;oP
@Daniel I just laughed out loud.. I thought this blog had finally died out but that is priceless... and all too often it's true!
Amy - You and I have some discussion on this site of us vs them. You won't hear any hell from me. :) Your post was honest and I get it. Good article.
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