Comment by Amy McDonald on January 14, 2014 at 12:34pm

Cathy, do you have a paid Recruiter account on LinkedIN. I just saw this post. You may want to check it out. http://booleanblackbelt.com/2014/01/keep-calm-message-on-linkedin-g...

Comment by Cathy Mannis on January 14, 2014 at 12:44pm

Amy - I do have a paid account (lowest tier).  If one doesn't use that, how can you tell if a 3rd party connection is a member of your group or not?  LI does not give you the capacity to expand the view.  Help?

Comment by Amy McDonald on January 14, 2014 at 12:47pm

I wish I could help Cathy, but I am not clear on the motivation behind the changes they've made. Sounds like the feature was being misused and now all recruiters are going to pay for it to me. Just an opinion.

Comment by Cathy Mannis on January 14, 2014 at 12:53pm

It's odd.  If you don't have a paid account, you can send free messages, but if you do, then you cannot.  Thanks for the ear, Amy!  

Comment by Keith D. Halperin on January 14, 2014 at 1:04pm

@ Amy: IMHO, LI's definition of "misuse":

"Misuse: anytime somebody's using a lot of what we have for free and not paying us extra for it."

No Cheers,

Comment by Keith D. Halperin on January 14, 2014 at 1:04pm

@ Cathy: say WHAT?

Comment by Cathy Mannis on January 14, 2014 at 2:23pm

@Irina:  How do we identify our 2nd and 3rd level connections within groups on LI outside of LI?

Comment by Brian Bowman on January 16, 2014 at 6:36am

@Cathy - the free sending of LI messages to group members for LI Recruiter account was possible through a BULK process....doing this through LI alone means the messages are sent ONE AT A TIME.  That's the difference.  This won't entirely remove spamming - but it goes a long way in their book.  I just finished a trial on LIR and had signed contracts to begin in February; however, am re-evaluating the deal based on their decision.  For those of us that were using this process as a targeted approach to reach talent...with customized outreach templates...it was a VERY big time saver.  No, now so much.  Not sure I need LIR now.  As I see it, the main value for LIR now is talent workflow / CRM.  However, if you have a CRM product inhouse already - one can still use the messaging features in groups...and then transfer contact information (done fairly easily today through the use of CRM plugins) to accomplish the process.  Will probably pass on my LIR contract BEFORE it starts now that they've changed the TOS.

Comment by Cathy Mannis on January 16, 2014 at 9:23am

@Brian - I think you are mistaken.  When I try to message group members to whom I am NOT a first connection, I have to use an Inmail.  LI's reply to me was "Well, you can still "message" your first level connections".  My reply:  "I don't need to be a member of the group to message first level connections".  So, all free messaging, whether one at a time, or group, is eliminated UNLESS you are first level connections.  It's horrible.  I've been on the phone with them; emailing them; they've offered free Inmails to rectify the matter and then said "No, we can't do that - but we will give you a month refund".  They are very stuck on asking the question is I have exceeded my InMail limit in the past - what difference does that make???  I would love to get your opinion.

Comment by Cathy Mannis on January 16, 2014 at 9:25am

@Keith - you can message from your free account, but, then again, if the person is not a first level connection, you have to find out the other people's last name, find the group in which they are in (that you are also in) and THEN you can message them - it takes forever.

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