There is a certain amount of veteran recruitment that goes on amongst those companies wishing to take advantage of the leadership experience veterans obtain in the military- we had discussed this recently at the Bronze Star Medal Group at LI.
For me, however, I like things easy; actuaries can be found in every actuarial department of an insurance company, physical therapists can be found in the PT department of a hospital and most larger companies have staffs of quality engineers who can be sourced using traditional methods of 'social engineering' or tools like Zoom Info.
Finding experienced veterans is problematic since there is no particular place to find them; they are not found in the 'veterans department' amongst the F1000 since of course there is no such department.
So besides not wanting to be in the employment agency business where I'd find myself trying to get an ex-tanker a driving job, I don't want to have to spend time trying to find leadership veterans in a haystack when there are industry specialists for whom industry will pay a fee and all I have to do is throw my hook into the appropriate department of a company to get a strike.
If I sound like I have a guilty conscience it is probably because to some extent I do.
But the recruitment firm I started with knocked most of that out of me in favor of focusing on earning recruitment fees and not worrying about saving the world.
I would prefer to be asked and in fact, once I get my blog page up and running I will prolly address this at my site.
I am under the distinct impression [many?] people do this [post a link next to their name and picture at, for example, LI] to get their name in lights.
What I think is particularly strange is when someone with a background that has depth to it does this when instead they could be starting their on flavor of conversation like the group here does.
Anyway, thank you again.
Sorry I could not run with your 'veteran' idea- I got my start by picking a field in which many companies pay recruitment fees and have stuck to that modus operandi ever since.
No one is going to pay a fee for an ex-artillery guy so specializing in veteran recruitment makes no sense to me; I prefer to be where there are lots of job orders floating around.
On the other hand, all my retained searches have been with companies outside of my usual circles; these were a consequence of our having been consulting to them and the CEO would bring up the need for a key person so we'd add that to the consulting mix.
The only link between my recruiting and my being a veteran is that one of my niches is Healthcare since I was an army medic so I know the language, culture, etc. making it easy to gain credibility from the start when I am dealing with hospitals and their candidate pool.
Hello, I would like to ask a question when/if you have time to reply.
I am new to blogging.
I notice a lot of people taking other peoples' work/blogs and posting a link to them at LinkedIn, next to their name and picture.
Being new to this, I at first think they have a blog they want us to read and then discover they have simply posted a link to someone else's blog and then are soliciting feedback at the LI site where they posted the link.
Is this considered kosher? It seems as though they are trying to build traffic to their name by using other peoples' published work.
Also, do they even contact the person who wrote the blog to get permission or are people doing this without asking permission to publish a link to the person's blog next to their own name?
It seems really strange at how many people are doing this; it seems as though they are, in effect, trying to get some form of recognition for themselves by creating a link to someone's blog.
Thanks, whenever you have time. I would really appreciate your explaining this to me.
Regards,
Paul Forel
paul@pfesinc.com
At 5:07pm on September 7, 2010, Kevin Vaughn said…
Hi, my name is Kevin and I am the operations manager for a healthcare recruiting firm in Los Angeles, CA. I’m reaching out to you because you indicated on your profile that you were in healthcare staffing and possibly open to doing some splits. We have a lot of open job orders and offer a 50/50 fee split. Would you be open to discussing ways we could collaborate from time to time?
Good to find you here. I added you as a friend and it's waiting for your acceptance. Check out George Vasu's page. I've already messaged him and will get back to you when I get his reply.
Don't forget to send me the New York Times article on you-know-what!
I am the “Admin” for the Recruiters On LinkedIn group. You have recently joined and this is a "welcome" to the group and "here is how it works".
Over the past year I have been experimenting how best to facilitate members being able to connect with each other. Some want to connect with everyone and some are looking for a few meaningful connections.
1-2 times per week I send a group introduction message with 10-15 new members and reintroducing others.
What this means for you is simple, do you wish to be introduced to the group?
You have 4 options from which to choose:
(A) “Open Networker” with name, email address, and LinkedIn URL as you want to connect with anyone and everyone.
(B) “General Introduction” with name and LinkedIn URL as you are specific about who you want to connect with.
(C) “Lurker” no announcement will be made as you want to be on the sidelines connecting with people as you wish.
(D) “Super Open Networker” which is (A) plus having your contact information on the group page.
A caution on the “Open Networker”, you may be inundated with invitations to connect. For some this is exactly what they are hoping for and others this could be a pain.
I do ask, if you receive invitations from members you do not want to connect with that you “Archive” the message versus “I don’t know” so the sender is not penalized by LinkedIn although how you handle this is up to you.
Again your options are (A), (B), (C), (D).
Please include your LinkedIn URL and email address you prefer to receive invitations and send to paul@mnheadhunter.com
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Hi,...
Regarding vet recruitment...
I had forgotten to mention the obvious-
There is a certain amount of veteran recruitment that goes on amongst those companies wishing to take advantage of the leadership experience veterans obtain in the military- we had discussed this recently at the Bronze Star Medal Group at LI.
For me, however, I like things easy; actuaries can be found in every actuarial department of an insurance company, physical therapists can be found in the PT department of a hospital and most larger companies have staffs of quality engineers who can be sourced using traditional methods of 'social engineering' or tools like Zoom Info.
Finding experienced veterans is problematic since there is no particular place to find them; they are not found in the 'veterans department' amongst the F1000 since of course there is no such department.
So besides not wanting to be in the employment agency business where I'd find myself trying to get an ex-tanker a driving job, I don't want to have to spend time trying to find leadership veterans in a haystack when there are industry specialists for whom industry will pay a fee and all I have to do is throw my hook into the appropriate department of a company to get a strike.
If I sound like I have a guilty conscience it is probably because to some extent I do.
But the recruitment firm I started with knocked most of that out of me in favor of focusing on earning recruitment fees and not worrying about saving the world.
Regards,
Paul
Keith,
Thanks, got it.
Keith,
Okay, thanks and thanks for taking the time...
I would prefer to be asked and in fact, once I get my blog page up and running I will prolly address this at my site.
I am under the distinct impression [many?] people do this [post a link next to their name and picture at, for example, LI] to get their name in lights.
What I think is particularly strange is when someone with a background that has depth to it does this when instead they could be starting their on flavor of conversation like the group here does.
Anyway, thank you again.
Sorry I could not run with your 'veteran' idea- I got my start by picking a field in which many companies pay recruitment fees and have stuck to that modus operandi ever since.
No one is going to pay a fee for an ex-artillery guy so specializing in veteran recruitment makes no sense to me; I prefer to be where there are lots of job orders floating around.
On the other hand, all my retained searches have been with companies outside of my usual circles; these were a consequence of our having been consulting to them and the CEO would bring up the need for a key person so we'd add that to the consulting mix.
The only link between my recruiting and my being a veteran is that one of my niches is Healthcare since I was an army medic so I know the language, culture, etc. making it easy to gain credibility from the start when I am dealing with hospitals and their candidate pool.
Thanks again,
Paul
Keith,
Hello, I would like to ask a question when/if you have time to reply.
I am new to blogging.
I notice a lot of people taking other peoples' work/blogs and posting a link to them at LinkedIn, next to their name and picture.
Being new to this, I at first think they have a blog they want us to read and then discover they have simply posted a link to someone else's blog and then are soliciting feedback at the LI site where they posted the link.
Is this considered kosher? It seems as though they are trying to build traffic to their name by using other peoples' published work.
Also, do they even contact the person who wrote the blog to get permission or are people doing this without asking permission to publish a link to the person's blog next to their own name?
It seems really strange at how many people are doing this; it seems as though they are, in effect, trying to get some form of recognition for themselves by creating a link to someone's blog.
Thanks, whenever you have time. I would really appreciate your explaining this to me.
Regards,
Paul Forel
paul@pfesinc.com
Good to find you here. I added you as a friend and it's waiting for your acceptance. Check out George Vasu's page. I've already messaged him and will get back to you when I get his reply.
Don't forget to send me the New York Times article on you-know-what!
Always in love and friendship... You're awesome!
Maya
Over the past year I have been experimenting how best to facilitate members being able to connect with each other. Some want to connect with everyone and some are looking for a few meaningful connections.
1-2 times per week I send a group introduction message with 10-15 new members and reintroducing others.
What this means for you is simple, do you wish to be introduced to the group?
You have 4 options from which to choose:
(A) “Open Networker” with name, email address, and LinkedIn URL as you want to connect with anyone and everyone.
(B) “General Introduction” with name and LinkedIn URL as you are specific about who you want to connect with.
(C) “Lurker” no announcement will be made as you want to be on the sidelines connecting with people as you wish.
(D) “Super Open Networker” which is (A) plus having your contact information on the group page.
A caution on the “Open Networker”, you may be inundated with invitations to connect. For some this is exactly what they are hoping for and others this could be a pain.
I do ask, if you receive invitations from members you do not want to connect with that you “Archive” the message versus “I don’t know” so the sender is not penalized by LinkedIn although how you handle this is up to you.
Again your options are (A), (B), (C), (D).
Please include your LinkedIn URL and email address you prefer to receive invitations and send to paul@mnheadhunter.com
Thank you for your time.
P.
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