Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Jason Simmons on September 13, 2011 at 7:25pm

I would reccomend an LLC and training with Cahill or Next Level. Both Danny Cahill and Next Level (Jeff Kaye and Co.) have fantastic training materials and are considered by many to be the best in the business.

Permalink Reply by Bill Ward on September 13, 2011 at 7:26pm

I would forget all of that right and go out and start building relationships within your niche. All the BS with setting up your business at this point is worthless unless you can generate real job orders as in exclusives. You have a leg up since you have been a therapist yourself which will carry a lot of weight with the hiring authorities.

Sample contracts are all over the place. I can send you one if you like. to be honest, if a client has the intention of screwing you over, they will. No contract or master agreement will stop them. Build great relationships and you may never have to worry about a formal fee agreement.

If you would like to get a basic overview of how to write effective job descriptions and interview more effectively, there are tons of books out there. Try "Hire with Your Head" by Lou Adler

Permalink Reply by Jennifer Bryan Gray on September 13, 2011 at 8:50pm

Thank you so much for your reply.  I really appreciate that information.

Jason Simmons said:

I would reccomend an LLC and training with Cahill or Next Level. Both Danny Cahill and Next Level (Jeff Kaye and Co.) have fantastic training materials and are considered by many to be the best in the business.

Permalink Reply by Jennifer Bryan Gray on September 13, 2011 at 8:53pm

Bill, Thank you so much for the helpful advice.  If you don't mind,  I would really like to take you up on your offer to send me a contract.  That would be so helpful.  At least initially,  I plan to do permanent placements only.  Thank you again for all of your help!

Bill Ward said:

I would forget all of that right and go out and start building relationships within your niche. All the BS with setting up your business at this point is worthless unless you can generate real job orders as in exclusives. You have a leg up since you have been a therapist yourself which will carry a lot of weight with the hiring authorities.

Sample contracts are all over the place. I can send you one if you like. to be honest, if a client has the intention of screwing you over, they will. No contract or master agreement will stop them. Build great relationships and you may never have to worry about a formal fee agreement.

If you would like to get a basic overview of how to write effective job descriptions and interview more effectively, there are tons of books out there. Try "Hire with Your Head" by Lou Adler

Permalink Reply by Valentino Martinez on September 15, 2011 at 1:54pm

Jennifer,

I like your common sense approach of doing a lot of research and asking important questions.  You can certainly leverage your knowledge, past work experience and established contacts.  Funneling all that into a recruitment related career path is very doable.

However, while you're getting everything aligned with pursuing this new career path--you must also know this:   Be careful of what you ask for--you might get it, or get into it in this case.  This one will be the death of you if you cannot SELL--your services; your candidates; your clients; your recommendations; your fee structure; yourself.  If you cannot take a door-in-the-face; crickets; and rejection--this will be a death march. 

I don't mean to be crude or rude--because I'm speaking from scar tissue of such downsides.  Yes, it goes with all career choices and I'm sure you've learned from yours.  But this one is rife with peaks and valleys.

If you're tough enough you will be AWESOME, particularly if you can also learn from Wile E. Coyote.

Good luck and keep asking questions...--you're on the right track and you came to the right group--RBC.

 

Permalink Reply by Jerry Albright on September 15, 2011 at 1:59pm

Jennifer - I have a free site for a few of the more common forms recruiters use.  Feel free to take a look - and if there's something in particular you don't find feel free to send me a note and I'll dig something up for you.

 

The Recruiting Library

Permalink Reply by Jennifer Bryan Gray on September 15, 2011 at 3:30pm

Valentino,

I guess I didn't realize that it was quite that brutal connecting therapists to jobs.  Thanks for the reality check.

Valentino Martinez said:

Jennifer,

I like your common sense approach of doing a lot of research and asking important questions.  You can certainly leverage your knowledge, past work experience and established contacts.  Funneling all that into a recruitment related career path is very doable.

However, while you're getting everything aligned with pursuing this new career path--you must also know this:   Be careful of what you ask for--you might get it, or get into it in this case.  This one will be the death of you if you cannot SELL--your services; your candidates; your clients; your recommendations; your fee structure; yourself.  If you cannot take a door-in-the-face; crickets; and rejection--this will be a death march. 

I don't mean to be crude or rude--because I'm speaking from scar tissue of such downsides.  Yes, it goes with all career choices and I'm sure you've learned from yours.  But this one is rife with peaks and valleys.

If you're tough enough you will be AWESOME, particularly if you can also learn from Wile E. Coyote.

Good luck and keep asking questions...--you're on the right track and you came to the right group--RBC.

 

Permalink Reply by Valentino Martinez on September 15, 2011 at 3:36pm

Jennifer,

You may have the wonderful experience of:  good timing; great candidates and plentiful clients who say, "Yes" more often than they say, "No".  Sometimes you have to get out of your own way. 

Brutal it can be (Yoda Speaks).

Permalink Reply by Jennifer Bryan Gray on September 15, 2011 at 3:54pm

Hi Jerry,

Your site was recommended to me and I have spent a portion of yesterday and today downloading and copying your forms and reading through them to gain some additional understanding.  Thank you so much for providing this free and very beneficial resource!  It has been so helpful! Now I just need to know if you will develop another website to answer all of my other "beginner" questions!  Ha Ha--just kidding!  Or maybe not!

Well, anyway, thank you so much for all of your helpful material. 

Jerry Albright said:

Jennifer - I have a free site for a few of the more common forms recruiters use.  Feel free to take a look - and if there's something in particular you don't find feel free to send me a note and I'll dig something up for you.

 

The Recruiting Library

Permalink Reply by Jerry Albright on September 15, 2011 at 3:58pm

You are very welcome Jennifer.  My phone line is always open - 260-347-1715

Permalink Reply by pam claughton on September 16, 2011 at 6:11am

Hi Jennifer,

 

Congrats on starting your new venture! You have a great idea of focusing on a specific niche that you know well. However, Valentino is very right that this is first and foremost a sales job. It's not just helping and matching people to jobs. I would highly recommend taking a look at the nextlevelexchange.com  I actually subscribe to both Danny Cahill and NextLevelExchange for my office and I think if I were in your shoes I'd definitely sign up for nextlevelexchange as it is a great and very thorough on-line training resource that breaks the whole recruiting process down into a series of 20 modules, each about an hour long, very in-depth training on how to source, recruit, call on clients, develop your niche, etc. Plus, there's new videos each month, one focusing on a recruiting topic and one on a big biller and how they do what they do. It's about $100 a month and I believe they will let you do a free two week trial to take a look at it and see if it makes sense for you. Even if you don't choose this training, I would highly recommend you invest in some training. You could also send yourself to Danny Cahills' rookie basic training camp. That's a two day very intensive hands on how to do this business that will set you up nicely with good habits. I sent my rookie there and it gives a solid foundation and blueprint for what to do and it's held at their office so you can 'see' what a busy working office looks and feels like. I worked at an agency for 10 years before going on my own and while I don't think it's necessary to do that, you learn a lot by being around other recruiters and all the different scenarios that come up. So, you may even want to consider working at an agency for a year or two and getting paid to learn and seeing what the business really is like before investing your own money into it....making sure you like what we do first.  Good  luck! Pam

 

Permalink Reply by Jennifer Bryan Gray on September 16, 2011 at 2:16pm

Yes, Valentino, you are right--I am believing for great timing, a plentiful supply of great candidates and super clients!

Valentino Martinez said:

Jennifer,

You may have the wonderful experience of:  good timing; great candidates and plentiful clients who say, "Yes" more often than they say, "No".  Sometimes you have to get out of your own way. 

Brutal it can be (Yoda Speaks).

• ‹ Previous
• 1
• 2
• Next ›
• Page