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Permalink Reply by Amy Ala Miller on January 17, 2013 at 4:47pm

Easy.... RPO, 35% mark up. Hourly contractors. Probably data entry clerks.

As much as he's picking on Derek, we are suspicious it's not only a chick but also a disgruntled former prom date or something.... :)
 
Darryl Dioso said:

7 placements in 2013 already and you bill 35% for each?

How have we not heard of you? Those kind of numbers, your name would be known in the industry for sure.

Permalink Reply by Derdiver on January 17, 2013 at 4:59pm

Yes Amy, I am busy fending off ex girlfriends. Unlike poser I have had girls other than in magazines in my life.

Permalink Reply by Paul Wall on January 17, 2013 at 7:30pm

You know something, you guy's are in a privileged position to learn a thing or two and this is the thanks I get? The response was for Pamela, not the "peanut gallery". Get back to work!

Oh, before I forget, you would never hear of guy's like me from your level Darryl, that's exactly why my clients love me, I engage in the confidential search without running my month, could you do that? I know Amy couldn't. Its good that you are curious though.  

 

P Wall

Permalink Reply by pam claughton on January 17, 2013 at 8:14pm

Paul,

You conveniently danced around my question. I asked several rather direct questions, which you avoided. I'm not new at recruiting. I've been doing this for many years, long enough to question a number like 147. My questions were simple, and not to be avoided by a nonsense parable about Ghandi....that had zero to do with what level placements you focus on, whether they are low level, contract or higher.

You also didn't answer if Paul Wall is a fake name, which I'm guessing it is or you would have been quite proud to provide your website which would answer these questions. I think I may be in Sandra's camp, wondering if you are an old troll that has come back to visit. I recall a similar  personality that danced around these parts several years ago and was then banned. Sound familiar?

Paul Wall said:

Recruiting 101: By Paul Wall

 

Pamela, welcome! Great question!! Before I provide you an answer I believe it would be good to put you in the right frame of mind. Please read the below story in its entirety.

 

True Story:

 During 1930′s, a young boy had become obsessed with eating sugar. His mother was very upset with this. But no matter how much she scolded him and tried to break his habit, he continued to satisfy his sweet tooth. Totally frustrated, she decided to take her son to see his idol – Mahatma Gandhi; perhaps her son would listen to him.

 She walked miles, for hours under scorching sun to finally reach Gandhi’s ashram. There, she shared with Gandhi her predicament. - “Bapu, my son eats too much sugar. It is not good for his health. Would you please advise him to stop eating it?”

Gandhi listened to the woman carefully, thought for a while and replied, “Please come back after two weeks. I will talk to your son.”

The woman looked perplexed and wondered why had he not asked the boy to stop eating sugar right away. She took the boy by the hand and went home.

Two weeks later they revisited Gandhi. Gandhi looked directly at the boy and said, “Boy, you should stop eating sugar. It is not good for your health.”

The boy nodded and promised he would not continue this habit any longer. The boy’s mother was puzzled. She turned to Gandhi and asked, “Bapu, Why didn’t you tell him that two weeks ago when I brought him here to see you?”

Gandhi smiled, “Mother, two weeks ago I was eating a lot of sugar myself.”

Got to love the Gandhi stories right? Now, I want you to do a little exercise with you, replace the term eating sugar or sweets in this story with lower level thinkers and replace the mother in this story with your clients or boss. I thought this would be a good segue into what I am about to tell you.

You have to stop involving yourself with lower level thinkers. I learned this value lesson well when I started in the business of recruiting 7 years ago. You know why lower level thinkers can't see how one motivated recruiter can make 147 placements in a year? You guested it, because they are lower level thinkers. Take Derek for instance, he is frustrated because of his inability to take his career to the next level and when guys like me calls him out on it, instead of heeding the message and doing something about it, he pushes back. Go figure right? This is an example of a lower level thinker; keep your distance from such people.

Second, you must and I repeat must stop playing the fool. Take your education of our industry to the next level or get out of recruiting; yes I said it, quit! It means too much to our industry to have smart folks out educating the industries on the value of using 3^rd party talent solutions as their primary option.

Third, stop flexing on your fees, if your client can’t come to terms on your 35% fee, walk away, find one that will. Adopt the CarMax concept, the sticker price is your price, your customer will appreciate you for it in the long run. Forth, stop seeing yourself as a regular player in the recruiting industry, you either sale Hyundai’s like everybody else or you sell to your status- like the Mercedes Benz. Note: By asking me how a 147 placements are possible, you are not ready the start selling Lamborghini Gallardo’s yet, but you are getting there.

Lastly, remember “things that matter most should never be at the mercy of things that matter least. Do you want to see a great example of this? Go back and read this discussion in its entirety, despite my full charge at The Animal and his antics, he did do one thing correct. He put his first thing first (make that your homework assignment to see what that ONE thing was. Now go do likewise and maybe you become a national sensation like me. Wouldn’t it be great! If not, go back to your boring underachieving life like Derek.

PS: Before I start my first morning yawn, I will awake knowing that my 7^th placement for 2013 has started, how many do you have?   

P Wall 

Permalink Reply by Amy Ala Miller on January 17, 2013 at 8:18pm

My offer stands. You're welcome to "school me" any time live on the animal show.

Permalink Reply by Sandra McCartt on January 17, 2013 at 9:06pm

Evil is at it's most disruptive, destructive and disingenious when it is hidden.  As recruiters we talk constantly about integrity, transparency, honesty and lament the lack of same with our candidates, our clients and our colleagues.  In my opinion, Noel, Tim and Ryan, as owners and administrators of the site you are endorsing all of the things that we hope to eliminate from our industry by continuing to allow this troll to continue with arrogant insults, lies and misrepresentation like the personifcation of disgusting garbage that it spews.  If this is what we allow here and call it sport, perhaps our demands for transparency and integrity are indeed nothing but hollow noise and the reason that our industry continues to be denigrated as filled with sleazy, liars, phony misrepresentation and slick hucksters.  Do you really want to provide a platform for the worst our industry has to offer?

Permalink Reply by Paul Wall on January 17, 2013 at 9:22pm

Thanks for the endorsement Sandra, did you read Amy's earlier post. We have been waiting on you, my offer still stands, if you are willing to be a guest on The Recruiting Animal Show, then I will go on after you. Would that make you feel better? I am sure he would love to have you on.

Come on Pamela, do I have to? Why can't you accept my success?

P Wall  

Permalink Reply by Derdiver on January 18, 2013 at 6:59am

Ladies, Please leave the troll alone, he is a special kind of stupid. He really is.

Permalink Reply by pam claughton on January 18, 2013 at 7:29am

Agree with Sandra. This kind of nonsense is a waste of everyone's time. It's disappointing that people are allowed to post here under false pretenses. 

Permalink Reply by Paul Wall on January 18, 2013 at 7:44am

Yeah, but you can't seem to look away, can you now Derek? Let's see how discipline you are.

Just go back to your boring lives and stop responding.

P Wall

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