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Permalink Reply by ░ Agastus on March 17, 2009 at 2:17pm

I'm not a sacred cow...

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Permalink Reply by Steve Sill on March 18, 2009 at 1:01am

This is just mean spirited. I think that anyone who reads a blog can make decisions for them selves. You obviously have far too much time on your hands.

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Permalink Reply by Maureen Sharib on March 18, 2009 at 4:44am

"Anarchy in any arena is unacceptable."
Anarchy is an interesting subject - you wanna discuss?

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Permalink Reply by Maureen Sharib on March 18, 2009 at 5:52am

Steve, Agastus,
Let me spell it out (since it's 5:10am and I have some time on my hands).

I feel qualified to speak to this subject because I've been there - done all the same kind of posting (the kind that is drawing so much ire here on RBC) in many, many places here on the Internet. I consider myself sort of an expert in offending (some) people.

When you post online what translates as an "ad" to others you run this risk. People don't like being "classically" advertised to. Go figger - I don't like the fact anymore than you like hearing this. But it's a fact. There's no doubt (or is there?) that the Internet is the future of advertising but it's how we choose to advertise that is going to set us apart moving forward. I mean, come on, nobody can dispute the fact that this post is blatant advertising. It beats my record by a far mile and I am the QOBMOH (Queen of Blowing My Own Horn). The trick, my friends, is to offer some piece of information that the reader will find useful/interesting along with the promotional value(s) you want to get across. Karla Porter suggested, in that string, “Perhaps you could write another post that highlights some of the fantastic experiences you have had working at e2scorp, why you chose to work there and why companies should work with you.” That is an excellent suggestion and speaks far more kindly and directly to mine here; the idea being to merge content with your advertsing.

Now, I say I don’t like the fact that people resent being advertised to. Guess what? Tough tooties, Maureen. YOU (me) don’t like it when you go to a movie and are forced to sit through a few minutes of advertising that you’re sure (when you think about it) management probably doesn’t like having to inflict upon you either. The fact is, when you break it down, it’s probably a necessity to keep the joint’s lights on and there are other ways of using that information than complaining about it (don’t invest in Movieplexes!). Know what I mean?

You getting this yet?

The MoviePlex owners will either figure out a way to garner advertising revenue that is less obtrusive to its core audience or go down in flames. It’s just taking them a little longer and that’s what all the furor on your string, Agastus, is about, if you think about it. You have all these savvy Internet “dutch uncles” scolding you about there being a wrong way and a right way and sure, some of it is done humorously, but, the message is there. You can either do one of two things to remedy your faux pas – you can get “better” at your presentation or you can get “bitter.” Which do you choose?

By the way, reconsider the sunglasses thing - when you're selling something to someone they want to see your eyes.

“The eyes are the window to the soul.” - Proverb

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Permalink Reply by Steve Levy on March 18, 2009 at 7:55am

Steve et. al.

I'll ask the question that others have not asked...why did this start?

We were having another one of our ubiquitous BountyJobs discussions when Agastus elected to toss in a tangential, highly-canned comment abou... - it smacked of bait-and-switchness.

You will eventually come to recognize that these types of posts take place frequently on RBC; read the original BountyJobs post. Jason can't be everywhere and relies on members of the community to point out these "ad attacks."

As his his right, Agastus then took the same content of his comment and created a blog post. But in the time frame that it was posted - so shortly after the BountyJobs thread - I viewed it...I suppose right or wrong depending upon how much time you've put into this community...as him thumbing his nose at me - and others in this community.

I've pointed out other blatant ads to Jason and accounts have been removed; if no one other than Jason took ownership of spammers we'd be overrun in a matter of weeks. RBC lives and dies by the content; honest discussions of RPO are great - whether they work any better than in-house is a great debate.

But this one was over the top; and I won't apologize for being a Badboy if in the long run the community thrives...

Steve Sill said:

This is just mean spirited. I think that anyone who reads a blog can make decisions for them selves. You obviously have far too much time on your hands.

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Permalink Reply by Recruiting Animal on March 18, 2009 at 8:03am

I am in agreeance with Steven J Still.

We don't need anyone telling us what to do. We can make decisions for ourselves.

There are mental cases, however, and the actions of these people can only be tolerated for a while. The blog should be free of any racist or totally hysterical foul-mouthed outbursts.

Steven Still said:

This is just mean spirited. I think that anyone who reads a blog can make decisions for them selves. You obviously have far too much time on your hands.

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Permalink Reply by Maureen Sharib on March 18, 2009 at 8:10am

I coulda' sworn "Steve Sill" said that...? What'd I miss?

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Permalink Reply by Recruiting Animal on March 18, 2009 at 8:19am

Maureen, I'm in agreeance with Steve. That's what I said. Don't cause trouble.

TODAY'S GUEST: The Return of Claudia Faust. She's going to describe the method she used to assess boyfriends and show us how it applies to recruiting. There's a free hand-out of her xl template.

Maureen Sharib said:

I coulda' sworn "Steve Sill" said that...? What'd I miss?

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Permalink Reply by Maureen Sharib on March 18, 2009 at 8:23am

But it's my job to cause trouble...
;)

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Permalink Reply by Recruiting Animal on March 18, 2009 at 8:31am

So the purpose of this posting is to argue the case for trouble-makers like you.

You're afraid that some people going to ban you from their blogs for being a member of the Bad Guys and you want to rally support before the axe falls.

Maureen Sharib said:

But it's my job to cause trouble...
;)

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Permalink Reply by Maureen Sharib on March 18, 2009 at 8:35am

You're afraid that some people going to ban you from their blogs for being a member of the Bad Guys and you want to rally support before the axe falls
Hmmm...I didn' think a' that... ya' think they would (ban me)?

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Permalink Reply by Amitai Givertz on March 18, 2009 at 8:38am

Maureen, I don't know where you got this "Anarchy in any arena is unacceptable" quote from but it's stupid in a) it's use of the term "anarchy" in the pejorative indicates no understanding of self-governance, society without centralized authority or free love; and b) it overlooks the numerous instances in history where anarchy has worked remarkably well, and in very different arena.

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