"dirty rotten job searching tricks"

I prefer not to comment on blogs that are blatant marketing posts on any site, by people who are too damn cheap to buy an ad. Phil Rosenberg makes a career out of posting half a blog with a link to his site to try and drive traffic to his site. I wasn't born at night and it sure wasn't last night. Being called out for moderating comments it appears he has decided to let comments through on this site rather than try to get them posted on his own blog.

A few words to you Phil. If you want to promote your services to candidates as a job search coach. Buy an ad, you cheap bastard.

If you want to post on a site for recruiters hoping that some recruiters might refer someone to you. It might be in your best interest not to post something that by your own headline is a " dirty, rotten, trick".

There are about a million reasons why job seekers should not resort to "dirty rotten tricks", not the least of which is trying to go around someone who can and will represent that job seeker directly to a hiring manager or have the ear of an internal recruiter. Obviously if a company had a problem paying a fee or did not want a recruiter to interview and screen candidates, the company would not have listed the job with a recruiter. I've been around since Lincoln was a cadet and tennis balls were square. I can promise you that advising any job seeker to go around HR, a recruiter, internal or external has resulted in more disappointment or problems for job seekers than any other stupid advice that failed recruiters turned "job each coaches" ever gave anybody.

Here is the call I got last week.

Candidate: I saw an ad a recruiter was running, I figured out who it was, so I sent my resume to the general manager, he sent it to HR, they won't return my calls nor will the GM. Somebody told me they were interviewing with this company through you. Can you get me an interview?

Me: no, sorry, you have already contacted them and have obviously called them until they have eliminated you.

Candidate: why, I have the experience they want?

Me: I don't know, if I had submitted you I could answer that question. I do know that they listed this spot with two recruiters and have asked us to screen, reference check and do indepth interviews because they don't want to do that internally.

Candidate: but why do they not want to save paying a fee?

Me: don't know guy, I guess they are willing to have us qualify candidates. In the future I would suggest that if you see a recruiter running an ad you assume there is a good reason the company is using a recruiter and contact the person who can get you presented and get feedback for you.

For you Phil, maybe your headline should have read, "dirty, rotten, tricks that can result in job seekers shooting themselves in the foot"

Buy an ad you cheap bastard.

Comment by Amy Ala Miller on June 13, 2012 at 1:36pm: I've decided to go home for the day, since nothing can possibly top reading this. :)

Sandra, you are MY HERO.

Comment by Sandra McCartt on June 13, 2012 at 1:51pm: Maybe I should write one entitled "cheap crap job search coaches use to promote themselves".

Naw, not worth the bandwidth. Too obvious!

Comment by Amber on June 13, 2012 at 2:13pm: Some good points, Sandra! I tried to comment on that post but I guess I wasn't special enough. It is bad enough to have click through a bunch of times to get to someone's "article", then try and comment (but the author needs to moderate), but then have to read his replies to responses that weren't even up yet...

Comment by Sandra McCartt on June 13, 2012 at 2:23pm: The ultimate in how to be an irritating ass. :). I think you are pretty special Amber, never could understand what kind of paranoia causes people to have a need to moderate comments but what can one expect from someone who has 30k LinkedIn connections and publically tells folks he may have delete them in order to take more. I would bet our buddy Phil has lots of mirrors in his office and likes daffodils.

Comment by Casey Kuperus on June 13, 2012 at 2:57pm: Thank you Sandra, you are my hero. Anything else I do today will pale in comparison to you.

Comment by Amber on June 13, 2012 at 3:00pm: If the information was relevant and legitimate I wouldn't even mind the clickback. Oh, and if the person is a least open to letting people say what they want without moderation.

And thanks, Sandra - not "special", I hope, lol!

Comment by Bill Schultz on June 13, 2012 at 3:15pm: daffodils?

Comment by Sandra McCartt on June 13, 2012 at 3:34pm: @Bill in mythology Narcissus stared at his own reflection in the pool until he turned into a daffodil or a narcissus as some are know today or a narcissist. :)

@Casey, no hero stuff, :) When you have spent years in recruiting i will hope that you will carry on my legacy of calling BS on this kind of stuff long after i have ceased to tap out "this is garbage" on my keyboard. Passing the torch, if you will. :)

@Amber, I had that "special" thought myself. LOL. Somebody thinks they are "special" but it ain't you and me..

Comment by Barbara Goldman on June 13, 2012 at 3:39pm: let's go get a drink. The whole database thing drives me nuts anyway. Once they are in the system, there is nothing you can do. The company loses. This might be a person who would be value to the company. The HR rule about 'their candidates', hurts the company who desperatly needs to fill the job. HR doesn't know it, because they haven't lived it. Collecting resumes on the internet is not recruiting. Candidates don't know any better.

Comment by Sandra McCartt on June 13, 2012 at 4:02pm: Would you look at that, The link to Phil's web site has been stripped off his post so he can't use RBC to promote himself. But being a dirty rotten trick kind of a personage he posted a live link to his site in his comments on his blog. The lengths some folks will go to for free advertising is worth noting. Give it up Phil, you cheap bastard, you are going to get to pay for an ad one way or the other. Please Noel and Tim, send this clown an invoice for putting his link in his comments after it was removed from the top of the blog. Or just get rid of him and let him go use somebody else. Obviously he does not respect your notice about advertorials.

@Barb, drinks are on me. :)

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